http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SES_0u_dGkE

a link i posted at an earlier post was deleted. i have also updated that one post. ( http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1312.msg10590.html#msg10590 )


anyways here's the link again.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I

That video was funny, but I would have to call it absolute crap.

I just read the quote from the rolling stone piece again.

They put enough straw-man in there to make it persuasive.

I think that I and others have made a good list of motives.  But after reading that again, I think I should answer one point that has gone unanswered.
Why fly planes into the building?  Why not just blow it up?

Well - if the building were to blow, then the news coverage would start after the fact.  The way it was done... you had everyone waking up to see the live coverage of the scene of the first plane crash.  So there would be plenty of cameras there to see the second crash.
By the second crash - everyone on America was watching.
Then they brought the buildings down - with everyone watching.

This was a huge psychological trauma.  That was the goal.

Anyone who has ever been to boot camp knows how this works.  If you don't know - study brainwashing technics and find out for yourself.  Shrugged can tell us how they do it.... right?

Quote from: Elvis Oswald on March 31, 2008, 07:39:39 PM
I just read the quote from the rolling stone piece again.

They put enough straw-man in there to make it persuasive.

I think that I and others have made a good list of motives.  But after reading that again, I think I should answer one point that has gone unanswered.
Why fly planes into the building?  Why not just blow it up?

Well - if the building were to blow, then the news coverage would start after the fact.  The way it was done... you had everyone waking up to see the live coverage of the scene of the first plane crash.  So there would be plenty of cameras there to see the second crash.
By the second crash - everyone on America was watching.
Then they brought the buildings down - with everyone watching.

This was a huge psychological trauma.  That was the goal.

Anyone who has ever been to boot camp knows how this works.  If you don't know - study brainwashing technics and find out for yourself.  Shrugged can tell us how they do it.... right?

Not true.  They could blow them exactly the same way, one at a time.  First one tower, to get all the cameras watching, and then the second.  For maximum carnage, they could have timed the explosion later in the morning.  In addition, they could have placed massive incendiaries to start a fire first, trapping everyone above, say, floor 20, and then blow the building 30 minutes later, with all of the USA watching on TV.  The possibilities are endless.  And all much simpler than faking airliner crashes and having to deal with real/fake airline passengers and real or fake hijackers and real or fake traffic controllers and real or fake recordings between passengers and families and real or fake videos of the hijackers in airports and real or fake planes and real or fake crash sites and real or fake passports dropping from planes. . . you get the idea.

You have also not addressed any of the other absurdities.

1.  Why crash a plane in the middle of nowhere in PA, risking exposure?  What additional outrage does this generate?
2.  If you are going to use planes on WTC, why not use a plane as well against the Pentagon, why a missile instead of a plane, risking exposure?
3.  Why take down WTC7 with explosives, risking further exposure?  The additional outrage is minimal, given no one is in the building, and you have already had two very successful crashes.
4.  Why not pin 9.11 more directly on Saddam, since the goal is to invade Iraq?
5.  Why not make the final part of the plan a fake discovery of WMD's in Iraq?  The lack of WMD's is a pie in the face that the Bush administration has still not wiped off.  You can't tell me that they would plot 9/11, but have no plan for WMD's?

One last thing, how long does 9/11 take to plan?  Years?  Bush and his administration was in office 8 months only.  Are you going to implicate Clinton too?

These are not strawmen.  These are very serious criticisms of the conspiracy theory.  Why would any rational and calculating group (and they had to be highly competent to accomplish what they did) do these silly things?

EDIT - wait, you did try to address the other stuff, but not very convincingly.  Especially now in light of Silverstein's lawsuit, where it is becoming clear he ended way short on the insurance money.  You want an investigation, here you go.  Lots of evidence will come to light if that case goes to trial.

Missile in broad daylight?  Please.  Like no one is going to notive.

PA plane is the plane that was supposed to fly into the pentagon?  Why don't you just fly it into the pentagon then?  Oh no! kevlar.  Like the missile even did that much damage anyway.

And no, they did not effectively pin 9/11 on Iraq.  Maybe some people who knew absolutely nothing thought Iraq was at fault, but Bush's political enemies made strong points about lack of connection between Al Queda and Iraq.  Remember the whole flap, where it was learned that that there was not really a meeting, and so forth?