Quote from: jacksatan on March 26, 2008, 09:40:16 PM
However, in all fairness, at 0.01 amps there is now a 50% margin of error - ie. instead of 0.01 amps it could be 1.49 amps... and at the absolute lowest calculable measurement that the machine is capable of, it is more than a little suspect of inaccuracy. Same goes for your resistor... with output as low as you are trying to measure, if you rubbed it in your pocket for a couple of minutes you might scrape off enough atoms woth of resistance to skew the results... try to replicate this with enough elecricity to be accurately measurable... otherwise you might need to spring for the big bucks to get highly accurate meters... either way, I'd hold off on that patent application until you have something with enough value to recoup the cost of the patent... or at least long enough for PB to race to the patent office and file on behalf of the spooks - right PB?

BIG BUCKS ARE BEING SPENT AND THE METERS ARE COMING...
AS IS THE PATENT.

EXPENSIVE METERS WILL ONLY MAKE THE RESULT GREATER.
BY THE TIME THE METERS GET HERE THOUGH LUC WILL HAVE THIS PUPPY OVER 200%!

BTW - LUC DOUBLE CHECKED THE CURRENT READING WITH 2 DIFFERENT METERS BEFORE ACCEPTING IT.

ALSO WE DON'T PRESENT THIS DATA HERE AS ABSOLUTE INFALLIBLE PROOF - WE PRESENT IT IN THE SPIRIT OF SHARING - PEOPLE WHO CAN DO BETTER THAN LUC AND I SHOULD FEEL FREE TO DO SO.

Thane

ps

FOR SALE

Gently used Ryobi 6" Bench Grinder Motor with precision built custom made plexiglass enclosure to be sold in "as is" condition. Good fixer upper for handy man types.

contact Luc@exploding.generators.are.us.com

Hi All,

here is a new ideal we got and just put together as a new rotor for the generator. It is a 10-3/4" Cast Iron belt pulley available at most quality bearing and pulley shops. We drilled through the spokes and installed screws with nylon lock nut to hold the magnet holders cups. The wheel is true and balanced. It is much heavier than the wheel barrel wheel but is an easy off the shelf precision piece. However, since it is heavier it accelerates slower but seems to give the same affect. We will be testing it more and will give an update.

Stay tuned.

Luc

Quote from: OilBarren on March 26, 2008, 10:14:51 PM
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PS:

FOR SALE

Gently used Ryobi 6" Bench Grinder Motor with precision built custom made plexiglass enclosure to be sold in "as is" condition. Good fixer upper for handy man types.

contact Luc@exploding.generators.are.us.com

ROTFLMAO
That gets my vote for best humor so far on the entire thread...
-M

LUC:
What's the rated RPM on that motor?  1760?  And it went to 3000+ before the generator decided to rapidly self-disassemble...
-M

Quote from: JustMe on March 26, 2008, 02:57:57 PM

Your graph does not illustrate predict or explain (because it's not designed to) the resumption of standard changes in speed, torque and consumption from a steady state rpm.  Common sense dictates that that requires that something give (or take).  If you misunderstand me again it can be nothing but deliberate.

Well, JustMe, at risk of having you berate me again, I have to tell you that I don't understand the phrase "...resumption of standard changes in...". And it's not deliberate.

Quote from: JustMe on March 26, 2008, 02:57:57 PM

The magnetic brake theory could indeed be the primary thing at play here, but it's far from proven, quantified, qualified or any other such thing. No justification whatsoever for your clear and unambiguous statement that "we can conclude that the device is simply a magnetic brake after all".  Where'd all the love for copious data go?

Again, yet again, you're only quoting half of what I said because that's the half that supports your idea that I'm an idiot (or whatever). This is getting repetitive so I apologize but it has to be because you keep ignoring the most important part. I'll be very brief:

1. The contraption is acting as a magnetic brake.
2. It behaves differently with a brass vs steel shaft.

#1 is not surprising. #2 needs further analysis to figure out what's going on.

PB

Quote from: markzpeiverson on March 26, 2008, 11:13:14 PM

Quote from: OilBarren on March 26, 2008, 10:14:51 PM
FOR SALE

Gently used Ryobi 6" Bench Grinder Motor with precision built custom made plexiglass enclosure to be sold in "as is" condition. Good fixer upper for handy man types.

contact Luc@exploding.generators.are.us.com

ROTFLMAO
That gets my vote for best humor so far on the entire thread...
-M

LUC:
What's the rated RPM on that motor?  1760?  And it went to 3000+ before the generator decided to rapidly self-disassemble...
-M

These Ryobi grinders can go up to 3,600 RPM. Thane has never allowed it to go anywhere close to that speed since he had a few magnets fly off in a demo once and ever since has been real careful. I just wanted to see what would happen at around full RPM. Now we know Thane is right.

So be careful.

Luc