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Overunity Machines Forum



Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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aether22

Whimp! If it is rated to do 2,400rpm long term it should do 3,600rpm fine for a while, or at least that's my opinion till it breaks apart killing someone ;)

considered making a joke about having PB stand near it when you test it, but there is no way you'd get him near a test no matter what.

In fact PB, please explain why you have not observed a test, tell Thane what would be required for you to do so.

Not that it wouldn't be a waste of time, you just asked hoping to discredit Thane until he called your bluff.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

jacksatan

Luc, why not use the pulley wheel as a pulley? Run a belt from the pulley around a generator and see how much energy you can transfer... ideally, you would want a generator with a continuously variable transmition given the exponential rate of rpm, but a standard generator should be give some basic first impression numbers...

polarbreeze

Quote from: aether22 on March 27, 2008, 01:27:47 AM

In fact PB, please explain why you have not observed a test...


I've already observed multiple tests: they're all in the videos and I believe them all and take them at face value. Also, as multiple people are reproducing them, I think the effect is very well established and an additional pair of eyes viewing it won't add to or detract from that. (Exception: nobody yet has reproduced the brass-vs-steel effect so that's an open issue).

The question (as I see it) is not about observing the effect: it's about determining an explanation for it.

Quote from: aether22 on March 27, 2008, 01:27:47 AM

tell Thane what would be required for you to do so.


I wouldn't presume to tell Thane that because he is not making that request of me. But since you ask, here's an idea, see post #1286. I just posted some suggestions to Luc about a series of measurements to make on the transformer. If he carries out that series of tests under the direct supervision of Dr Habash, and if they unequivocally show >100% efficiency in a regime where experimental error doesn't obscure the results, and if Dr Habash endorses those results, then I would be interested in coming inÃ, and taking a look at both the transformer and the motor/generator experiments.

Quote from: aether22 on March 27, 2008, 01:27:47 AM

Not that it wouldn't be a waste of time, you just asked hoping to discredit Thane until he called your bluff.


Yes, well, that's exactly the problem isn't it. If I have issues with it, however objective they may be, they'll be discounted or even ridiculed as the words of a skeptic, as has happened several times already with others way more qualified than me to pass judgement on this thing. Scientific method keeps getting trumped by innuendo and personal barbs. Therein lies the problem, hence my caution.

PB



polarbreeze

Quote from: jacksatan on March 27, 2008, 01:39:54 AM

Luc, why not use the pulley wheel as a pulley? Run a belt from the pulley around a generator and see how much energy you can transfer...


Excellent idea JS!
PB

aether22

Quote from: polarbreeze on March 27, 2008, 08:19:31 AM
Quote from: aether22 on March 27, 2008, 01:27:47 AM

In fact PB, please explain why you have not observed a test...


I've already observed multiple tests: they're all in the videos and I believe them all and take them at face value. Also, as multiple people are reproducing them, I think the effect is very well established and an additional pair of eyes viewing it won't add to or detract from that. (Exception: nobody yet has reproduced the brass-vs-steel effect so that's an open issue).

Ok, so now I have a few more questions ;)

Why did you ask Thane to see a demo?

And why was your previous reason for not going 'lack of due diligence' or something like that?

?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes