@PB,

it looks to me like something we'll need in petra!  what do you really think?

lol
sam

once again we are talking about numbers that are within the margin of error...and again, for those who are not doing the math (Bitbeam this is for you) we are talking about such infintesimaly small current that it can be affected by the temperature in the air... to put in perspective, if you had a way to store the "generated" power in a completely lossless fashion, and you ran this machine for three years - 24/7 - you would not have "created" enough energy to light a light bulb for an hour... you would likely generate a thousand times as much energy walking across a shag carpet...

Quote from: OilBarren on March 27, 2008, 10:06:19 PM
DEAR ALL,

I PURCHASED A NEW TRUE RMS CLAMP ON METER TODAY WITH A + or - 1.5% ACCURACY DOWN TO 40 mA. ALTHOUGH STILL NOT QUITE GOOD ENOUGH.

Smart buy - it's just perfect for keeping that measurement down in the final digit, causing experimental error to completely obscure the true results. Just what the doctor ordered.

Quote from: OilBarren on March 27, 2008, 10:06:19 PM

INPUT
AMPS = 0.01 A
VOLTS = 0.694 V
POWER = 0.00694 W

OUTPUT @ 1 K RESISTOR + or - 1% ACCURACY
VOLTS = 3.209
POWER = 0.0103

Thane

Congratulations. Truly homeopathic amounts of power. Perhaps this will also provide a cure for the common cold.
PB

Quote from: JustMe on March 27, 2008, 10:33:10 PM
As requested...

Nice pic, JustMe. So this setup and the homeopathic results were verified by Dr Habash, were they? I mean, in his daily review as per Thane's posting:

Quote from: OilBarren on March 14, 2008, 07:11:18 AM

...WHEN YOU CONSIDER WE HAVE OUR WORK (IMPROVEMENTS) DOULBE CHECKED EVERY DAY - BY DR. HABASH BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE SURE BEFORE POSTING THEM.

...Thane

To add to aether22's comments on zero-point energy (ZPE)...

First, contrary to most scientists' understanding, relativity theory did NOT disprove the existence of an aether; Einstein himself said, "Relativity theory does not need to invoke the existence of an aether in order to explain the propagation of light thru the vacuum of space".  This is a far cry from saying that it "proved there was no aether."

Second, there is considerable empirical evidence now, published in mainstream journals, that "quantum fluctuations" or the "zero-point field" (ZPF) does indeed exist; most of the evidence comes by way of the Casimir effect, but other confirming evidence has been found.  Bottom-line: what we think of as the "empty vacuum of space", is not really empty.  Well, it's empty of matter, but not empty of energy.  Just because we don't have a handy-dandy ZPF meter to easily detect/measure it, doesn't mean it isn't there!  I can't see the wind, but I sure can feel it's affects on me, and can see how it affects other things, like trees and dust.  To quote a recent peer-reviewed paper,

"In a series of experiments, Koch et al. (1980; 1981; 1982) measured voltage fluctuations in resistive wire circuits that are induced by the ZPF. The Koch et al. result is striking confirmation of the reality of the ZPF and proves that the ZPF can do real work (cause measurable currents). Although the Koch et al. experiment detected miniscule amounts of ZPF energy, it shows the principle of ZPF energy circuit effects to be valid and opens the door to consideration of means to extract useful amounts of energy."

"Blanco et al. (2001) have proposed a method for enhancing the ZPF-induced voltage fluctuations in circuits. Treating a coil of wire theoretically as an antenna, they argue that the antenna-like radiation resistance of the coil should be included in the total resistance of the circuit, and they suggest that it is this total resistance that should be used in the theoretical computation of the ZPF-induced voltage fluctuations. Because of the strong dependence of the radiation resistance on the number of coil turns (scaling quadratically), coil radius (quartic scaling), and frequency (quartic scaling), these enhanced ZPF-induced voltage fluctuations should be measurable in the laboratory at quite accessible frequencies (100 MHz compared to the 100 GHz range necessary in the Koch et al. experiments)."


Third, a major advance came in 1994 with a paper published in Physical Review A entitled, "Inertia as a zero-point Lorentzian force" (or something like that; have a copy of the manuscript, just too lazy to get up and find it!).  Up until this time, inertia was considered a fundamental postulate of physics; i.e., NOT deriveable.  This paper derived the fundamental equation of inertia, F=ma, as a kind of electromagnetic "drag" on matter caused by an asymmetrical interaction between the ZPF and accellerated matter.  Since then, they have simplified the math and have extended the "model" to other fundamental things like deriving the Debroglie wavelength of the electron; things that have added strength to the correctness of the model.

Fourth, and kind of the whole point of this, I have had several visits with the brilliant mathematician who did all the math for that seminal paper and many followup papers, and asked him a very specific question, "Can the ZPF be converted into one of the forms of energy that we know, such as heat, electric current or potential difference, etc.?"  His reply was immediate, and cautious: "I haven't yet come across a way that it can be done, but I also have not encountered any mathematical or physical reasons that would rule it out."  This question is obviously one that he has thought about a number of times since it didn't require any thought to formulate a concise answer... i.e., he's probably been asked that question by a number of other scientists.

I would include a recent paper on the likelihood of energy extraction from the ZPF, but it's way too large (585KB), and I'm not sure where I found it, but here's the title and a few paragraphs... a web search should find it:

Review of Experimental Concepts for Studying the Quantum Vacuum Field

E. W. Davis1, V. L. Teofilo2, B. Haisch3, H. E. Puthoff1, L. J. Nickisch4, A. Rueda5, and D. C. Cole6

ABSTRACT
We review concepts that provide an experimental framework for exploring the possibility and limitations of accessing energy from the space vacuum environment. Quantum electrodynamics (QED) and stochastic electrodynamics (SED) are the theoretical approaches guiding this experimental investigation. This investigation explores the question of whether the quantum vacuum field contains useful energy that can be exploited for applications under the action of a catalyst, or cavity structure, so that energy conservation is not violated. This is similar to the same technical problem at about the same level of technology as that faced by early nuclear energy pioneers who searched for, and successfully discovered, the unique material structure that caused the release of nuclear energy via the neutron chain reaction.

INTRODUCTION
Quantum theory predicts that the vacuum of space in the universe is filled with low-energy electromagnetic waves, random in phase and amplitude and propagating in all possible directions. This is different from the cosmic microwave background radiation and it is referred to as the electromagnetic quantum vacuum since it is the lowest state of otherwise empty space. When integrated over all frequency modes up to the Planck frequency, νP (~ 10^43 Hz), this represents an enormous potential source of energy with a density of as much as ~ 10^113 J/m3 which is far in excess of any other known energy source even if only an infinitesimal fraction of it is accessible. This is also several tens of orders of magnitude greater than the energy density of matter-antimatter annihilation reactions. Even if we are constrained to integrate over all frequency modes only up to the nucleon Compton frequency (~ 10^23 Hz), this energy density will still be enormous (~ 10^35 J/m3). And we have not taken into account the fact that the electromagnetic quantum vacuum is not alone by itself. On the contrary, it intimately couples to the charged particles in the Dirac sea of particle-antiparticle pairs and thereby couples to the other interactions of the Standard Model (weak and strong force vacua). So all the numbers we just mentioned admit of some further adjustment.

This energy is so enormous that most physicists believe that even though zero-point energy (ZPE) seems to be an inescapable consequence of quantum field theory, it cannot be physically real, and so is subtracted away in calculations by ad hoc means. A minority of physicists do, however, accept it as a real energy which we cannot directly sense since it is the same everywhere, even inside our bodies and measuring devices. From this perspective, the ordinary world of matter and energy is like foam atop the quantum vacuum sea. It does not matter to a ship how deep the ocean is below it. If the ZPE is real, then there is the possibility that it can be tapped as a source of power or be harnessed to generate a propulsive force for space travel.

That's enough for tonight... my head hurts!

-Mark

PS:
A hundred years from now, I wonder if the 21st century will be referred to as the "Zero-point" century?