Bill,

QuoteRemember that Hans had told you that the NS coil was a tpu?  He said that the only difference was the NS coil was straight and the tpu (obviously) was a toroid shape

I do. I think I will look for it, but my memory is that I said something about it looking like one and Hans said it IS one. and that was all.
Gerry Vassilatos on his web site  maintains that NS got pulsed DC.
Ian Middleton made one once and I think he thinks we are seeing ac. Remember how he described a reversal of the galvanic reax into electrolysis?

He didn't actuallysay ac.

Here is part of Ian's explanation:

"...over a period of time the galvanic action would break down the metals into their resective salts and the battery will go dead.

This is where Stubblefield got crafty or was just plain lucky. He took those 10 foot rods (wires) and wound them around a soft iron core. Bifilar style. He would have known this from Teslars experiments.

The galvanic battery now became an electro magnet at the same time. If the galvanic voltage was, as said, true DC then the induced magnetic field in the iron core would also remain static at a given strength.

For the outer solenoid to function an oscillating magnetic field would have to be induced in it. This oscillating magnetic field was brought about by the rapid making and breaking of the primary galvanic circuit.

In Stubblefields day most of the apparatus he used were inductive. Morse key tappers and electro magnetic bells were common. This explains why the batteries lasted so long and were not so quickly destroyed by galvanic action.

When a momentary contact was made across the two wires a current was drawn and a magnetic field was set up in the center core. When the contact was broken, the magnetic field in the core collapsed inducing a back emf. This would create a reverse voltage across the wires enabling the elemental metals to be deposited back to their original electrodes. A bit like electro plating. Much of the success of his batteries was due to the equipement he used them with." - quote from Ian Middleton

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Last night I finished coil #10 by running out of cu wire at row 5 so I went half way down row 5 and back up to the top. So, it isn't really 6 rows.

It gets
750mvdc
13.8mA
pretty good. If I touch it to my little motor that runs on 30 mA of .6 volts, the motor jumps a bit but doesn't turn. I probably need to not run out of copper!

Then:
I wound about 150 winds in 3 rows of green radio shack mag wire directly onto the stake at the bottom. scraped the ends then I connected one end to the stake itself and the other to the meter and  clipped the other side of the meter to the 5cu wire. I saw 1/2 the amount of volts on the cu wire and more than the full amount on the vAC and I think the same amount of amps as without the secondary. When I switched the meter to clip to the iron6 wire the voltage was less than half. I assume this is because of the greater resistance in the iron.

This has to be inductance from the iron stake producing a mag field . The other ends of the wire were hanging in the air!

The idea for this came from the flash circuit which I think  this part of the NS battery could be made into.

I will check this more carefully today.

Gary,

QuoteDId  you notice that   both    coils  are passive  except when transmitting ? 

Except that in the words of the patent the coils are responding to the transmitter coil with a comparable wave which is what produces the accurate sound. So, it that is passive, yes.

I hadn't really thought about that complex wire being a series wire, but it sure could be. It is definitely something to look at next.

jeanna

@ All
Got back home again, over the weekend I spent more hours on the NS program.
The main section is ready, have a little work to do in the 2nd section relating to conversions, theres a couple of bugs to iron out, a bit of a tidy up, arrange a final arrangement and it will be ready for you all.

Jim.

I've heard ya'll talk about hotspots and I just wonder if old Stubblefield wasnt in an area with low grade uranium or perhaps even Tourmaline in the ground.

@ MrSpates:

Long ago in the topic (I have no idea where) Hans uncovered an interesting fact relating to your post.  It seems that NS used pitchblende to increase the output of his cells.  Well, with a little research, Hans discovered that pitchblende is uranium ore!!!!  The reason, according to historical records, that NS's wife left him was because three of the children died of  then "unknown" illnesses from eating vegetables out of the family garden.  A statement from NS said that the same stuff he used to increase the output of his cells also increased the size of the vegetables.  This is probably the main reason he died alone.  Hans also posted a picture of a light being illuminated by a very small amount of uranium.  I will post it here if I can find it in time.  This is a sad story but it is probably true.  The kids died of what was later termed cancer.  So, I guess he was able to make his own "hot spot", but at a terrible price.  Murry University sits on the old location of his farm.  I have always wondered if anyone has taken a Geiger counter over the area before building the university.  (Probably not)

Bill

  @ Bill

Thanks for that post Bill. That proves my theory that you can't get any usable power from a coil just by burying it in the ground no matter how its wound, it has to have something more. After all a coil is really nothing more than a transformer and that has to be powered by something. That brings to mind mineral dielectrics. Certain stones like granite,quartz, and tourmaline won't pass electricity but they will hold it if a strong enough current is applied to them. I don't know how they would act as a gathering device for aether in the ground or even if you could tap the stored energy. I don't have a high voltage DC generator yet. An interesting experiment would be to drill a hole in a piece of granite and insert an electrode, then charge the granite with say 20k vdc and bury that in the ground to see if the pre-charged rock might be able to gather currents from the ground and keep it charged, and if your wondering if my way of thinking is pointing toward electrets, you'd be right. Interesting things those electrets.