@ jeanna
I went to that joule thief web page, that was interresting, I printed out the information
recommended reading for newbies that one, goes in the top draw.

Thanks
Jim

jim

Quoteglad you got a garden light all cut up, watch for the polarity when connecting.

It works great. just not on the NS battery, even 2 in series, but it is cold and rainy so I am talking about kitchen batteries, not the real ones. that will be tomorrow, maybe.

jeanna

@ anyone

A mystery within a mystery.

OK got myself into gear again, connected up the LEDs to the rods in the ground, and they are working again, still got a problem, related with the 1st one.

I repaired the hot water system earth strap, thats fixed, then when I reconnected the CRO, the LEDS brightened up again.

Then I noticed it was only brightning when just the earth clip from the CRO was touching the NEG or Al lead.

Disconnected the CRO and unplugged it, Made up a 3 prong power plug, with just 1 wire going to earth, (No Active or Nutral wires) plug the plug in the power point. connect this single earth wire (representing the CROs earth) to the LED earth and bingo, the LEDs lit up full brightness, so ...
Am I picking up earth currents from the "mens earth 240v ac wiring earth  or telleruic earth currents?
Tomorrow I will test the Earth at the meter box, check its connections, if their tight, I'll throw a gallon of water on the earth post and see what happens.

I either have a problem or not, dont know.

If there is nothing wrong with the earth at the meter box, I cannot use the new cro,

I have the answer to one thing, all the measurements I made previously have been tainted by the earth through the new CRO, interresting, I wonder if it will happen to anyone else if they use any equipment that is energised by the usage of their power supply earthing system?

jim

@all

After my tests last night i decided to see if the acidic soil from pine forests had effect on our earth cells, so this afternoon i went to our local pine forest and took around 5-10kg of soil including some dead material from the surface, i removed my cell from the earth and dugg out the hole to about 10-12 inch diameter and around 10 inch deep then reset my cell in the hole sourounded by the pinewood soil, Il leave the cell here for around 7 days and take further readings to see if there are any improvements.

readings before i removed the cell were:-

.575 vdc
12.00 ma


@joe

i didnt see much deterioration of the wires probably because the acid to water ratio was around 1% acid and due to the short time scale the cell was in the solution, so maybe if it were there for a lengthy amount of time then maybe the deterioration would have been noticable?.

@all

well after i notice the power went up conciderably with the acid at 1% i decided to see how much power i could gain by increasing the ratio, i upped the ratio to around 20% vinegar (i ran out of vinegar )and the power went from 22ma up to 60ma, and this was all from a very small primary mentioned in my previous post.

I dont know what effect the acidic soil will have on the cell but maybe 1 amp of current could be produced from my cell if it were submerged in acidic electrolyte solution, il go the way of the acidic soil to start with and see what.. if any results come from this.


chad.

Chad

Thanks for the update, i cant tell you how happy i am that someone presued this line if testing.  Once we get  the big ones wound it might be advantageous to dump a bottle of vinegar in the ground around it once.

Secondly

@All

IS pine pitch acidic?  Remember the sap reports im starting to wonder if it was a catylist............

As of now i know this, if i had enough wire i could easliy increase my readings on my primary coil to .8 v which is still the same and i approximate 100 ma or more with say 6 or 7 layers and a bolt thats a little longer.  This is cresting on enough usable power to feed a relay and operate it. Although it is going to have to be homade.   Now taking into account chads latest findings he achieved almost a 500% gain in output from the 20 percent vinegar mix. Thats substantial.  This needs to be peresued and tested further. Chad thanks again for the great addition.

So again i is pine pitch or sap acidic? i cant find info on it , if anyone can answer this that would great
                                                                                                                  Thanks to all
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