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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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OilBarren

Quote from: RCH on April 28, 2008, 01:33:30 AM
Vince,
So ... set the RPM higher--
And repeat!
Yours was/is a VERY revealing experiment ....          :)
RCH

YES AND IF POSSIBLE LOAD THE MOTOR WITH YOUR STEEL BAR - BEYONG THE PULL OUT POINT AND IT SHOLD NOT RECOVER.

Thane

OilBarren

Quote from: Gustav22 on April 28, 2008, 05:25:35 AM

The above, so far, is factual, I guess.

Now I would like to know:
- Is there any interaction between this stored (i.e. not dissipated) amount of energy and the magnets?

- Is the "zero level" rising (around which the current in the circuit alternates) while the system speeds up in scenario2b?

MY FEELING IS THE STORED CAPACITIVE REACTANCE IS DISSIPATED INSTANTLY THROUGH THE COIL WHEN THE MAGNET MOVES AWAY.

THIS IN TURN PRODUCES CURRENT IN THE HIGH VOLTAGE WIRE AND AN ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD WHICH AIDS - RATHER THAN HINDERS THE MAGNETS DEPARTURE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN "ZERO LEVEL" PLZ.

Thane


OUman

Quote from: RCH on April 27, 2008, 06:14:59 PM

Hint: Go back and Study Depalma ... who, incidentally, went to NZ and worked with Adams ... until his untimely death in 1997. 

DePalma is the KEY .... 


You're forgetting, RCH, that Thane has told us he makes a point of NOT studying anyone else's results because he says it interferes with his intuitive processes.

OUman

Quote from: JustMe on April 27, 2008, 04:39:31 PM
Quote from: OUman on April 27, 2008, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: blindsangamon on February 05, 2008, 09:45:23 PM
It appears that the Perepiteia Motor is nothing more than a hysteresis brake.  Placing the steel rods (wound by coils) near the spinning magnets induces alternating magnetic flux within the rods, the resulting magnetic hysteresis causes drag on the rotating disk, and heat losses within the steel rods.  Shorting out the coils effectively shields the steel rods from the disk's magnetic field, eliminating the hysteresis drag.  This causes the motor to speed up - but not as much as it would if the steel rods were removed completely.
This was posted nearly 3 months ago and seems to be a very plausible explanation. Have any of the experiments since then produced results inconsistent with that theory?



@All

Did anybody ever come to a sound conclusion as to why Vince got acceleration by holding up just the steel and laminates to the spinning magnets? Is this not the exact scenario as described above that should have produced drag/deceleration?

Maybe Vince could comment on that and tell us whether that effect was repeatable. Also, how many other people reproduced that effect? In particular, has Thane reproduced that effect?

OUman

Quote from: vince on April 27, 2008, 11:33:27 PM
@OILBARREN

No Crack, but I did need asperin when the magnets flew off!!!

I think your evaluation is right because I was below rated speed and I did see a slight increase in input current.

Vince

So that means the hysteresis brake theory still looks solid then.