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Overunity Machines Forum



Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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OilBarren

Quote from: OUman on April 28, 2008, 07:30:22 AM
Quote from: RCH on April 27, 2008, 06:14:59 PM

Hint: Go back and Study Depalma ... who, incidentally, went to NZ and worked with Adams ... until his untimely death in 1997. 

DePalma is the KEY .... 


You're forgetting, RCH, that Thane has told us he makes a point of NOT studying anyone else's results because he says it interferes with his intuitive processes.

COMBINED WITH THE FACT THAT ONCE YOU START - YOU'LL NEVER STOP BECAUSE THERE IS ALREADY SO MUCH BEING DONE "OUT THERE" ALREADY AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT YOU ARE REPLICATING SOME ONE ELSE'S WORK RATHER THAN REVOLUTIONIZING SOMETHING NEW. 

Thane

OUman

Quote from: cleanfuture on April 28, 2008, 02:40:54 AM
Quote from: OUman on April 27, 2008, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: blindsangamon on February 05, 2008, 09:45:23 PM
It appears that the Perepiteia Motor is nothing more than a hysteresis brake.  Placing the steel rods (wound by coils) near the spinning magnets induces alternating magnetic flux within the rods, the resulting magnetic hysteresis causes drag on the rotating disk, and heat losses within the steel rods.  Shorting out the coils effectively shields the steel rods from the disk's magnetic field, eliminating the hysteresis drag.  This causes the motor to speed up - but not as much as it would if the steel rods were removed completely.
This was posted nearly 3 months ago and seems to be a very plausible explanation. Have any of the experiments since then produced results inconsistent with that theory?



Shane's latest video demonstration does not fit this scenario at all. The input load to the motor actually decreases (by about 50watt) with increased output speed only when the high voltage coils as well as the high current coils are connected to a load. With the high voltage coils at open circuit and only the high current coils connected to the load,the generator behaves as expected from text book theory. Besides, why would shorting out the coils shield the steel rods from the magnetic field anyway? Every time I have tried this with a permanent magnet generator, it just locks up.
Uli

Uli, I suggest you dust off your textbooks about magnetic braking. There is nothing whatsoever mysterious about this. The original poster didn't express it very scientifically, that's true, but the theory behind this is very well established.

OUman

Quote from: OilBarren on April 28, 2008, 07:40:51 AM
Quote from: OUman on April 28, 2008, 07:30:22 AM

You're forgetting, RCH, that Thane has told us he makes a point of NOT studying anyone else's results because he says it interferes with his intuitive processes.

COMBINED WITH THE FACT THAT ONCE YOU START - YOU'LL NEVER STOP BECAUSE THERE IS ALREADY SO MUCH BEING DONE "OUT THERE" ALREADY AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT YOU ARE REPLICATING SOME ONE ELSE'S WORK RATHER THAN REVOLUTIONIZING SOMETHING NEW. 

Thane

As opposed to unknowingly replicating someone else's work and only thinking you're "revolutionizing something new"? Click here: http://depalma.pair.com


Gustav22

Quote from: OilBarren on April 28, 2008, 06:44:47 AM
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CAN YOU EXPLAIN "ZERO LEVEL" PLZ.

Thane
I tried to edit my posting
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4047.msg92650.html#msg92650
to make it more clear.
Maybe it is still not clear enough, then I will try to clarify on another occasion in the future.

On another topic:
I think hartiberlin should grant you moderator rights, so that you are able to keep PB and his clones in check.
Imagine somebody new getting interested in your tech and having to wade through this thread.
Just imagine.

Even if you yourself don't want to delete the detractions, you should be able to transfer the moderator right to a person you trust.

Harti, you should OFFER this to Thane.
money for rope

JustMe

Quote from: OUman on April 28, 2008, 07:49:12 AM
As opposed to unknowingly replicating someone else's work and only thinking you're "revolutionizing something new"? Click here: http://depalma.pair.com

That so many others have noted similar things makes Thane's work more urgent and not less. If there is indeed something of value in these observations scattered over at least three decades, it's well past time for it to come off the bench. The mainstream attention he's gotten may mean that the time is now, and certainly means the opportunity is his. Why add negative pressure?