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QuoteThane,
Getting colder ....             
RCH

I KNOW BUT IT MIGHT KEEP OUman BUSY FOR A WHILE?

Thane

DEAR ALL,

PLEASE FIND ENCLOSED PRE AND POST SATURATION TESTS - PERFORMED TODAY.

THE REAL CRITICAL THING FOR ME IN FIG. 1 AND FIG. 2 IS A 90 DEGREE PHASE ANGLE DIFFERNTIAL BETWEEN THE VOLTAGE AND CURRENT.

CHEERS
Thane

Quote from: cleanfuture on April 28, 2008, 08:04:04 PM

Quote from: OUman on April 28, 2008, 07:44:26 AM

Uli, I suggest you dust off your textbooks about magnetic braking. There is nothing whatsoever mysterious about this. The original poster didn't express it very scientifically, that's true, but the theory behind this is very well established.

...none of these scenarios apply in Thane's setup. If you shorten out a coil arround a conductor subjected to a changing magnetic field, you will create maximum current and thereby heating in the coils. This is what the textbook says and this is called an electric generator, ok? If what you are describing is a hysteresis brake, than Thane has discovered a new type of hysteresis brake. What is it going to be? The effect which Thane is demonstrating is unusual enough for Dr Habash from Ottawa Uni to research it. Are you suggesting that Dr. Habbash does not know what a hystersis brake is also? Maybe you should tell him that. I am sure he will be glad to be enlightened bu you.

Uli

I disagree with some of your points:

1. I don't think it's an "electric generator" when the coil is shorted because when the coil is shorted you cannot extract any electrical power from it - it's not generating anything except heat.

2. I don't think it's a "new type" of magnetic brake - it's a conventional magnetic brake, which can result in acceleration when you change the loading on the coils, because this reduces the braking.

3. I think if you contact Dr Habash you will find that he is not involved in any of these experiments and does not want to make any comment on them. If you doubt me, please go ahead and call him to verify this.

Quote1. I don't think it's an "electric generator" because when the coil is shorted you cannot, of course, extract any electrical power from it - it's not generating anything except heat.

IF THE SHORTED COIL CREATES FREE ADDITIONAL TORQUE AND MAXIMUM ACCELERATION AS IT DOES AS PROVEN BY OTHERS ON THIS THREAD - THEN THE POWER REQUIRED BY THE MOTOR IS REDUCED BY THAT SAME AMOUNT.

VARYING THE LOAD - SIMPLY VARIES THE RATE OF ACCELERATION.

FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NOT SEEN THE NEW VIDEOED GENERATOR IMPROVEMENTS PRODUCING SOMETHING OTHER THAN HOT AIR AS PROVIDED BY OUman /PB / Pepetual Lurker / Springboard YOU CAN SEE IT HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7PBavkMGwI

Quote2. I don't think it's a "new type" of magnetic brake - it's a plain vanilla magnetic brake which, of course, can result in acceleration when you change the loading on the coils, because this reduces the braking.

BRAKES DON'T CAUSE ACCELERATION - THEY SIMPY VARY THE RATE OF DECELERATION.
ACCELERATION IS CAUSED BY A FORCE OTHER THAN THE BRAKE.

LUC IS PRESENTLY WORKING ON A NEW PROTOTYPE WHICH IS INTENDED TO ACCELERATE PAST THE RATED SPEED OF THE INDUCTION MOTOR - PAST A SLIP ANGLE OF 0 ALSO AT RATED SPEED MOTOR TORQUE = 0.

AT THIS POINT THE MOTOR POWER INPUT WILL = 0 WATTS.
IF SUCCESSFUL THIS WILL ESTABLISH THAT THE EFFECT IS COMPLETELY ISOLATED TO THE COILS AND THE MOTOR'S CONTRIBUTION WILL BE LIMITED TO PROVIDING BEARINGS FOR THE ROTOR.

ALREADY LUC HAS BEEN ABLE TO GET THE INDUCTION MOTOR RUNNING WITH LESS POWER WITH SHORTED COILS THAN THE MOTOR ON ITS OWN COMPLETELY AWAY FROM ANY COIL OR FERROMAGNETIC MATERIAL.

THIS VERY IMPORTANT TEST WILL PROVIDE VALUABLE INFORMATION ON THE AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL TORQUE / COIL WHICH WE CAN EXPECT FROM OUR NEW COILS - IN THE ELECTRIC DUNE BUGGY.

Thane