Quote from: OUman on April 29, 2008, 12:00:47 PM
I don't think it justifies that rudeness, JustMe - it seems OK, doesn't it, that if someone suggests that a shorted coil is an electric generator, that someone else would disagree with them?

It's a stupid, useless point that doesn't change the substance of the original poster's argument one iota. You know very well what he meant. I think it's rude to make stupid, useless points OUman.

Quote from: OUman on April 29, 2008, 12:00:47 PM
Whether right or wrong, I think it's an OK discussion and if you feel it's a waste of your time, you don't have to read it - still less waste more of your valuable time replying to it!

"I suggest that the city manager investigate the feasibility of using only obsolete fire equipment to answer false alarms." ~ San Diego city councilman in a memo addressing the high rate of false alarms

(and you can count on me using my valuable time to call out any future stupid, useless points)

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK

Quote from: JustMe on April 29, 2008, 12:19:57 PM

It's a stupid, useless point that doesn't change the substance of the original poster's argument one iota. You know very well what he meant. I think it's rude to make stupid, useless points OUman.

OUch!

I just to remind everyone what is at stake here and how importnat it is to keep our heads clear in order to gain a clear understanding of how this technology works. We should not allow ourselfs to get roped in by sceptic dicks such as OU man who do not have their facts right anyway. These poeple get some sadistic enjoyment out of writing completely nonconstructive post to defocus everyone from the real issue. After having achieved that goal, they see that as proof how unprofessional and unscientific the group was in the first place. Please be aware of this game, everyone, and simply ignore this diatribe in the future. If you stop feeding those poeple with replies (as I have been guilty of myself), they go away eventually.
But more to the point, if would be helpful, Thane, if you can publish a load test on the motor with magnetic rotor but no coils near it. 215w seems a little high for a motor with no load. You said you have already done that, but let us know what the results where, please. I do not believe for one minute that we are dealing with a hysteresis brake scenario, since as I pointed out the setup does not resemble a hysteresis brake but a test like this would put all the critics at rest. In the setup I am currently building, I am using a 12V DC motor as a prime mover. The torque characteristics are more linear and no load power consumtion is less than 25W. If the setup works, I am expecting a drop in input current for the some output speed once the high voltage coils are connected. The other thing I would like to try is to connect the high voltage coils to a spark gap. If there is anything about the theory that the high voltage coils act like a capacitor, than a spark discharge (or a neon tube as per Newman) could be beneficial in selftuning the charge/discharge cylcle sweetspot. Ever thought of trying that, Thane?
Uli

QuoteThane, if you can publish a load test on the motor with magnetic rotor but no coils near it. 215w seems a little high for a motor with no load. You said you have already done that, but let us know what the results where, please.

LUC DID THE TESTS AND I WILL ASK HIM TO PUBLISH HIS PRELIMINARY DATA BEFORE HE SPENDS A WEEK ON THE BEACH IN FLORIDA.

QuoteI am using a 12V DC motor as a prime mover.

MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AN EQUIVALENT INDUCTION MOTOR STANDING BY - DC MOTORS DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THE SAME FREE WHEELING CHARACTERSITICS AS AN INDUCTION MOTOR.

QuoteThe torque characteristics are more linear and no load power consumtion is less than 25W. If the setup works, I am expecting a drop in input current for the some output speed once the high voltage coils are connected.

YES WE SAW A DROP IN CURRENT (WITH OUR DC MOTOR) BUT NO NOTICABLE ACCELERATION BECAUSE OUR COILS WERE TOO WEAK.

QuoteThe other thing I would like to try is to connect the high voltage coils to a spark gap. If there is anything about the theory that the high voltage coils act like a capacitor, than a spark discharge (or a neon tube as per Newman) could be beneficial in selftuning the charge/discharge cylcle sweetspot. Ever thought of trying that, Thane Uli

NO BUT WE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING USING OUR HV COILS TO CHARGE A CAPACITOR AND THEN A BATTERY - POSSIBLY EMPLOYING LUC'S BACK EMF RELAY CIRCUIT.

Thane