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Hi Thane
this is extremely interesting results, i am slowly accumilating all the various parts that it need to try this for myself.
Theres a couple more questions that i hope you can answer me:

with the HC coils connected to the lamp and the motor slows down due to the power draw of the lamp, can you please tell me how much wattage the lamp consumes? and is this lamp wattage directly related to the extra wattage the motor needs to turn the extra load?

now with the HV coils: please can you explain why you are using 4 LED's instead of a filament lamp? as i understand that LED's are very low voltage lamps that consume only miliwatts, how many watts are they drawing from the high voltage coils while the motor speeds up? (i'm guessing that you had to put high value resistors in series with the led's)
please can you explain how the motor reacts if using a filament lamp in place of the led's? have you tried this?

i'de be very interested in your findings.

fred

Hi all,

I just flew down to Florida to help drive back my uncle to Canada, so I will be away for the next 10 days.

Before leaving I built a new test setup that is all mounted in a 3/4" plywood box (for protection). It has a 1/4" thick lexan window to see the face of the rotor turning and be able to use a laser photo tachometer to take accurate RPM readings. We also bought many identical microwave transformers for testing. I cut down 4 of the new transformers and removed all the primaries and 2 of them removed the high voltage secondary and glued them in the other 2.  I now 2 high voltage coils per core x 2. See Photos below. I also have a new light 9" lexan rotor with 8 x 1" neo magnets embedded and epoxied in the rotor (see 2nd photo) Also I built an option that I can move the coils closer or further away from the rotor ON THE FLY. You can see that option in photo 3. With all this protection we can now let the induction motor (Prime Mover) run full out 3,600 rpm. I just completed the construction of the box and tested it with Thane the night before flying to Florida. However I had some strange new things happening and could not get good results wet. One of the new problems with this setup is that only 1 of the of the 4 high voltage coils would give the acceleration effect (when shorted). I thought, double high voltage coils per core would give double the effect! but that did not happen, only one works on core one and none work on the second core. I tried them in series and parallel with no change. I ordered a induction and capacitance meter but have not receive it wet, so I can't give a henry readings on the coils wet. One thing I thought could be happening is that both core's are touching each other, could that be the cause? on the first setup we made with the 2 microwave transformers (that Thane is using above), both cores seem to be touching and gives acceleration effect from both core but each core and coil are not identical in size (from different microwaves) could that be the difference? do they need to be all different sizes for the effect to work? maybe they need to be isolated from each other if all identical? anyways it will have to wait till I get back to try to get to the botton of this.

At Thane, great job on the new setup above.

Stay tuned

Luc

@Gotoluc

QuoteI thought, double high voltage coils per core would give double the effect! but that did not happen, only one works on core one and none work on the second core. I tried them in series and parallel with no change. I ordered a induction and capacitance meter but have not receive it wet, so I can't give a henry readings on the coils wet.

You could check the resonant frequency of your coils on the fly with the following non-intrusive circuits .I think one thing we are missing is the role the length of the conductors play in a resonant circuit, the length must be exact to hit resonance at any given frequency. Also every component has a resonant frequency and every conductor within its vicinity and each can effect the other. Personally I have found conventional measuring systems to be "lacking" in that they cannot measure without interference, there are better ways.
Also if you build two charge detectors spaced apart and amplify the voltage drop across the LED then use a differential amplifier across the units and you can tell when a person moves within 30 feet of this circuit and from what direction based on phase shift when 555 timing circuits are included.This is based on the fact the human skin is the most positive in the triboelectric series and static charges on your body. It's a pretty neat circuit, a kind of electrostatic radar based on the same principal as an oscilloscope, it measures the change between detectors using very small divisions of time.

@Thane,Luc,

Great job on the new setup, we'll never keep up.

@All,

Hate to follow that show, but my humble setup has worked. Shorted it at 716 rpm at 107 watts and accelerated to 913 rpm at 105 watts. Don't want to go much faster now as the wheel has a 1/16 wobble side to side and in height. The neos are 1 X 1/4 placed on back of the cup containing a 1 X 1/8.

Larry