Aether,

In case you haven't seen this--

Aspden's excellent 1998 "overview" re why "there HAS to be an aether."           

http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/le24.htm

And, here's another ....

http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/le26.html


Enjoy.


RCH

Quote from: RCH on May 08, 2008, 12:37:54 AM
Thane,

Appropos of your unique motor/generator design and its "anomalous" rotational/electrical behavior .... found this intriguing additional report by Herald Aspden earlier this evening.         


" ... There is other evidence of phenomena which involve unusual angular momentum properties or raise difficulties with the principle that action balances reaction ....

"In the laboratory there are, to my knowledge, two reports of anomalous behaviour which are seemingly relevant. In 1972 a demonstration at a meeting of the Institution of Electrical Engineers in U.K. surprised its author. A rotor in a machine speeded up when the power was switched off. It happened and yet could not be reproduced in later efforts to study the phenomenon (E. Laithwaite, 'Unexplained Phenomenon', Electronics & Power', v. 18, p. 360; 1972). It is as if, by some very special circumstance, energy was stored as rotational kinetic energy in the environment of the machine and was fed back to the machine when it was switched off.

"The other report appeared in the German publication Umschau in 1975 (R. G. Zinsser, 'Kinetobarische Effekte - ein neues Phanomen?', Umschau, v. 5, p. 152; 1975). Experiments are here reported as consistently verifying a phenomenon which defies explanation. An energy pulse communicated at high frequency across a capacitative coupling is absorbed in a torsion balance. After the pulse has subsided, a unidirectional torque prevails in the system for up to two hours for no apparent reason. It is as if energy is stored by some kind of unseen flywheel that feeds energy back to the apparatus slowly once the power is switched off in the system [emphasis added] ...."

http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/le05ap1.htm


H-m-m-mmmmmm ... rotating aether, anyone?


RCH

There is another case of the guy who IIRC in a vacuum found that an accelerating flywheel caused a flywheel opposite it to rotate in the other direction.

There are also many different devices which all create a force from a sudden discharge of electricity (really aether) and they all add up perfectly, they are all the same experiment. (Podkletnov, Morton, Telos, initial Cook Coil, Joe Cell vacuum 'Implosion', Edward Farrow and others. (Including an experiment by DMBoss who along with Peter Lindeman sadly missed the point about Thanes discovery and unfairly criticized it)

Another different type of experiment told to me by Graham Gunderson is a dielectric strip, I think perspex with some foil squares top and bottom, when energized in series to create a 'wave' a thrust was produced.  Oh and that leads on to the 'Electric Rocket' which was initially incorrectly reported as from T.T.Brown which was replicated by many and 3-4 of these attempt were successful. (the successful attempt all had an initial sequential energization I believe)

There is a lot of evidence that the aether especially when accelerating or decelerating can place a force on matter which otherwise may not occur when the aether moves through matter.

If this plays a real part in Thane's effect I don't know.

Quote from: RCH on May 08, 2008, 05:09:03 AM
Aether,
In case you haven't seen this--
Aspden's excellent 1998 "overview" re why "there HAS to be an aether."           
http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/le24.htm
And, here's another ....
http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/le26.html
Enjoy.
RCH

He makes a bold statement, right at the outset: that "Einstein's theory is of no practical use in technology". If he is so ignorant as to be unaware of the vast number of applications of relativity in actual daily use (already in 1998 of course) then one must certainly question his authority to declare that "there HAS to be an aether". Perhaps he also believes that the world is flat or that the sun orbits the earth?

Quote from: aether22 on May 08, 2008, 07:45:20 AM
(Including an experiment by DMBoss who along with Peter Lindeman sadly missed the point about Thanes discovery and unfairly criticized it)

QUICK TO MISS THE POINT - QUICK TO CRITICIZE - QUICK TO DISMISS -
AND PERPETUALLY SLOW TO ADMIT THEIR ERROR.

NO CONSPIRACY THEORY HERE - JUST NORMAL HUMAN BEHAVIOR.

Thane

Quote from: aether22 on May 08, 2008, 12:20:22 AM
Thane, one very simple test you could try.

With the HV coils shorted get to a predefined speed and then cut the power to the motor keeping the HV coils shorted (High current coils assumed open or not present) Time how long it takes to decelerate to a second lower preselected RPM. Then try it all the same again only when at that predefined speed simultaneously open circuit the HV secondary coils as you cut power to the motor and time how long it takes to decelerate to the second lower preselected RPM. That should give some idea as to what is truly generator anti-lenz and what is an effect on the motor.

Thane, what do you think?

THIS IS A GREAT IDEA AND I WILL ALSO PLOT ACCELERATED SYSTEM SPEED WITH HV COILS vs NO HV COIL.

THANKS
Thane