well I have no formal education in mechanics, physics, engineering, etc,etc, but I have had a knack to make things work, nor do I have the facilities to be able to actually try this

my idea, and I have looked for anything similar and have never seen an idea like it

if you were to take a 2 cylinder engine, or compressor, remove the top end, connect the rods in a way to say 50# springs, could you put a wieght on the flywheel to be able to overcome the resistants of the springs to go past tdc?

what weight would you need and at what rpm?


this forum is called half baked ides

Can you make a picture?   

noI losy my crayons..............sorry

Quote from: canuck22 on May 08, 2008, 01:10:57 PM
well I have no formal education in mechanics, physics, engineering, etc,etc, but I have had a knack to make things work, nor do I have the facilities to be able to actually try this

my idea, and I have looked for anything similar and have never seen an idea like it

if you were to take a 2 cylinder engine, or compressor, remove the top end, connect the rods in a way to say 50# springs, could you put a wieght on the flywheel to be able to overcome the resistants of the springs to go past tdc?

what weight would you need and at what rpm?


this forum is called half baked ides

Canuck   

I  would  say that  anyone   with more than  half  an education in  such things would tell  you that it won't work

I  don't have  more than half an  education  so I  will  say ..........maybe  it could work .

If   you had    a long heavy  rod  or beam   .........at some  frequency  it  would have a natural  resonance .....in other  words it would  vibrate like a  guatar string .         If   you  hooked  a  crankshaft  of the right  lenght   to this  rod    you could  get  rotory motion  out of it .

Would  it  be  over unity ?   probably not .........unless  you  fond a naturally  occurring  vibration  you could  tap  in this maner .


Your  idea  with  springs  would work in a similar way ......  a  very heavy piston    connected to  springs would have a   specific  fewquency of  oscillation .    Your  springs   would  would  be   storing energy half of the time then releasing that  energy  the other half of the time . .......so no  energy gain there ....... but  again   it  could   be used to tap energy from  a pre existing   vibration 

gary

what I mean is, I am looking to be able to bring the piston rod to top dead center, then make it go over top dead center using a weight on a flywheel as kenetic energy to do the work, the speing would send the rod back down to bottem dead center

the opposing rod would go over tdc ( top dead center ) ans send the 1st rod back up