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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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OilBarren

@ ULI

SOMEWHERE IN HERE ULI SUGGESTED USING AUTOMOTIVE IGNITION HV COILS - I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT IDEA BECAUSE A MICROWAVE TRANSFORMER EMPLOYS A STEP UP RATIO OF 1:25 OR THERE ABOUTS AND AN IGNITION HV COIL IS 1:3750! SO I PURCHASED ONE TODAY AND SHOULD HAVE SOME INFO TO POST IN A DAY OR TWO.

@ HIS EXCELLENCY - SIR RON OF THE WESTERN PACIFIC

RON CAN YOU OUTLINE YOUR PROCESS - I.E.
FULL SPEED TEST (120 V IN)?
OR 65 V IN - WHICH I LIKE TO DO DEMOS WITH.
(ALSO SEE BELOW)...

@ THE NOW SILENT DM BOSS

YES IT IS THE IMPROPER USE OF AN INDUCTION MOTOR - WHICH IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF OBSERVING THE EFFECT.

AN INDUCTION MOTOR WHICH IS OPERATED OUTSIDE OUTSIDE ITS IDEAL RANGE AND EXPERIENCING MASSIVE SLIP IS JUST HANGING ON BY THE FINGERNAILS SO
SNEEZING ON THE ROTOR WILL SLOW IT DOWN - BUT EQUALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT THE SLIGHTEST ADDITIONAL TORQUE WILL HELP SPEED IT UP.

@ AETHER22

NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK - AND IN MY CORNER!
WHAT IS YOUR ETD? (ESTIMATED TIME OF DEMO?)

@ JUSTME

VERY CLASSY OF YOU NOT TO BITE ON THAT ONE!

@ALL

SO I DID SOME TESTS ON MY TOROID GENERATOR AND IT DECELERATES WHEN INDIVIDUALLY SHORTED (LOADED) AND ACCELERATES WHEN LOADED IN SERIES. NOT SURE WHY THIS DISAPPOINTS ME BUT IT DOES.

I ALSO DID SOME ADDITIONAL TESTING ON THE TRANSFORMER COILS LUC AND I PURCHASED FOR THE DUNE BUGGY GENERATOR (THESE ARE THE COILS LUC PUT IN HIS "BLOW UP PROOF BOX") - BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEEM TO PERFORM AS WELL AS THE "SMALLER" UNITS IN OUR LATEST VIDEO. http://youtube.com/watch?v=K7PBavkMGwI

THE LOADED HIGH CURRENT (HC) COILS CAUSE CAUSE MASSIVE DECELERATION - BUT THE HIGH VOLTAGE COILS (HV) DO NOT PRODUCE MUCH ACCELERATION AND CERTAINLY DO NOT - COMPENSATE FOR THE HC LENZ EFFECT.

THE CORE SIZE IS ABOUT 75 - 100% LARGER AND THE HV COILS DC RESISTANCE IS 10 OHMS LESS WHICH TRANSLATES INTO MUCH LESS EFFECT PRODUCTION.

MY SUGGESTION TO ULI BASED ON I_RON'S LACK OF ENCOURAGING RESULTS SO FAR,  IS TO TRY TO REPLICATE THE EFFECT WITH AN INDUCTION MOTOR FIRST - AND CONVINCE YOURSELF THAT IT IS REAL - AND THEN MOVE ON TO A DC MOTOR - WHERE THE EFFECTS MAY BE VERY SUBTLE AND HARD OR NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO DETECT IF THE COILS ARE WRONG OR SOMETHING ELSE IS AMISS

CHEERS
Thane

LarryC

@All,

Did some testing on a simple homopolar generator to compare against my previous noted homopolar field effects on the rotor. I used an end cap for a one inch copper pipe and inside were two 1" x 1/4" neos in opposition with three 1/8" plastic washers in between them. Used a Lee Valley washer with a cut nail thru it to chuck into my drill. Copper cap and magnets rotating in sync.

At 300 rpms got 25 MA at 1.8 MV.

At 1600 rpms got 101 MA at 7.2 MV.

The rpms are really low for a homopolar motor, but I expected a little better results. This is partly due to the end cap having a 1 1/8" ID  leaving a 1/16 inch gap between it and the magnet. Also, still using the meter probes as commutators, when the actual motors uses liquid metal.

I will try a regular 1" ID copper pipe later. If I can better results, then I will attempt to couple it with the AC motor to observe if there are any effects.

Still low power, but pretty good for a generator that does not work!



Quote from: JustMe on May 08, 2008, 12:19:21 PM
Quote from: OUman on May 08, 2008, 08:11:55 AM
Perhaps he also believes that the world is flat or that the sun orbits the earth?

What fools, the heretics who wondered otherwise when those ideas were the implacable truths of their time.

Good point JustMe, too bad it was promptly trashed by the spinmasters.


I really don't understand why they are so ignorant as to attempt to slow down this research process. We have a record number of Major hurricanes (Katrina survivor), record number of Super Tornadoes, Winter Hurricanes (many winter storms above hurricane force), record loss of the Arctic ice sheet, record flooding and what next.

We are only trying to research into an observed effect here!!!  Even if it is not the OU savior, it may lead to one that is. One day you worthless excuses will wake up to a major disaster like the people in Myanmar, if you and your family are lucky enough to wake up, and then ask yourself "Why was I so stupid trying to slow progress that may have prevented this, just for spook bucks, skeptic creds or ego".   

Larry

aether22

THANE   aether22

@ AETHER22

NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK - AND IN MY CORNER!
WHAT IS YOUR ETD? (ESTIMATED TIME OF DEMO?)

Good question, well everything is made, I got the extra length of steel rod cut off professionally and for free doing a far better job than I could have with an angle grinder, so it's all ready and I'm about to try and put it all together.

But before I got the 2-3 inches of excess core cut off I did try it in a quick test, now I didn't have any Tachometer but I found it produced about 60 volts AC and would give a notable zap but when shorted there was no change either way.
That however means nothing without knowing the RPM and I feel the motor was powered a bit much which I will counteract with a transformer.

But I wonder if I continue to get no results if I_RON and myself both have something different about our setups that might seem unimportant, still hopefully mine will work fine and hopefully before the day is done.
But if not I'll take you up on the offer to send me the bench grinder motor, I'll plead with you to get a 'verified by Thane' coil and have everything the same.  (or I'll send you what I have and see if you can figure out where the difference lies, wouldn't it be a pain if it turns out to be defendant of the aetheric component of the grids supply or something mental, but I'm getting WAY WAY ahead of myself here and will test what i've currently got far far more before asking Thane for more favors)

@ALL

SO I DID SOME TESTS ON MY TOROID GENERATOR AND IT DECELERATES WHEN INDIVIDUALLY SHORTED (LOADED) AND ACCELERATES WHEN LOADED IN SERIES. NOT SURE WHY THIS DISAPPOINTS ME BUT IT DOES.

Not sure either, it basically verifies that HV causes acceleration and high current deceleration.
Thane, one question I would really love you to answer.

Can you please detail the experiment where you found that the effect can pass through a very long PVC pipe?
How many HV coils were there? Were they in series or parallel?
Was the effect found not to be present of you used only one coil? (it makes sense that many focused in as it is can create a far more high pressure beam than a single coil, this was proven by Boyd Bushman)
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

aether22

Quote from: OilBarren on May 08, 2008, 08:15:42 PM
ps
RYOBI MOTOR'S PRODUCE THE BEST EFFECT AND CAN BE PURCHASED AT HOME DEPOT - CANADA'S FINEST HARWARE STORE - AT A LOCATION NEAR YOU OR ONLINE AT: www.homedepot.ca/

Indeed that may be why I have failed to get results, I may need to get a Ryobi.
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

OilBarren

QuoteThane, one question I would really love you to answer.

Can you please detail the experiment where you found that the effect can pass through a very long PVC pipe? How many HV coils were there? Were they in series or parallel? Was the effect found not to be present of you used only one coil? (it makes sense that many focused in as it is can create a far more high pressure beam than a single coil, this was proven by Boyd Bushman)

THE PCV PIPE EXPERIMENT WAS MY ATTEMPT AT RULING OUT THE MOTOR AS CONTRIBUTING TO THE EFFECT - AND ISOLATING IT TO THE COILS. 

I WOULD RATHER PROVE MYSELF WRONG THAN HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DO IT.

I USED MY 8 COIL SETUP.

I AM QUITE UN-HAPPY TO BE PROVEN WRONG BY SOMEONE ELSE BUT I AM LEANING TOWARDS THE HV COIL CAPACITANCE vs AETHER IDEA. SO CRUSH MY EGO IF YOU  CAN - BUT JUST MAKE IT WORK PLEASE!

Thane