Hi Thane,
About your last design.
First off I really applaud people with never ending endurence to keep going at what they want to achieve. So you are doing well. Not that meany people here in this field go beyond the 'lets talk about it' phase. That is not a critique to them since they have their choice and role as well.

My main interest when I started in this field was "Lets beat lenz law' I have designd simulated and tested quite a few designs and devices and still am. Altough it is hard to put in words I have come to the 'believe' that it is not that easy (to say the very least) to redirect the coil's back emf away from the magnetic field that is inducing it in the first place. The one only exists because of the other and in my believe (atm) it does not matter 'where' you let the back emf and rotor magnet's field fight the lenz battle. I have never found a way to seperate the two. Back emf is born in the coil where the rotor's magnetic field is going through and so seperating them is like the dream since the electrical revolution started. Without lenz there would be no relation anymore to input and output, so it is a worthy goal to perusue. Keep on it, I still do. Lately I am more into solid state tech and hildenbrand type systems, as well as anything that sounds promissing. Well to recap, I never have found a convincing methode of beating Lenz law and so creating a no load generator. That does not mean I have given up, far from it. But there is so damn much more to it that we just don't know. Many of these designs seem logical in our mind and some also in simulations. But all I ever saw was nature finding a way to equal cause and effect at best. But we go on untill we get it done. That is out highest goal right. We will get there within a year or 3 I believe, the time seems right.

Steven

Quote from: CRANKYpants on May 24, 2008, 10:03:32 PM
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I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM I_RON/STEVE AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON WITH STEVE'S DEVICE?

I AM INSTALLING NEW MAGNETS ON MY ROTOR WHICH ARE 5X STRONGER THAN THER OLD ONES.

WHEN I HAVE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO SHARE I WILL.

Thane

Thir,

I only wish I knew for sure but my guess is that the original patent only used ceramic magnets.
Nali has used Neo's and a very heavy steel construction. Plus it is a twin core twin coil construct.

I have tried all the available core types from cast iron, brake turnings and powdered cast iron in
epoxy and magnetite and epoxy to salvaged laminations. I have run innumerable tests using the
RV as a prime mover to chart the drag and output of these different types. The best material (and in the unobtainium category), is Somaloy which I got from the Aussie inventor that S and I work with.

But using somaloy cores I was unable to duplicate Hop Toad's experiment... go figure...

Tidying up your experiment, I increased the gap to 1/4 of an inch, put up four coils, two HV and
two HC.  As the variac was back on the Veljko pendulum experiment, ran it at full speed where
no changes of speed up or down or any deviation from a steady input rate was noted, with any core
connection scheme. I really should cut the core in half as you have done and wind proper coils to
fit the reduced core size. Being a 1/4 inch away, with that mass of core, killed the effect.

So you see I am not the best person to ask what is going on with S's device.

But give me a shout when you have something definite that you think I might be able to handle
and I will give it a spin, K?

Take care mon amie,

Ron

Quote from: Nali2001 on May 25, 2008, 09:29:54 PM
Hi Thane,
About your last design.
First off I really applaud people with never ending endurence to keep going at what they want to achieve. So you are doing well. Not that meany people here in this field go beyond the 'lets talk about it' phase. That is not a critique to them since they have their choice and role as well. Steven

INTERESTING - MY DEMO #4 DOES IT COMPLETELY ALBEIT WITH IRON CORES NOT LAMINATED ONES BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN FOCUSING ON IT AT THE UNIVERSITY BECAUSE IT IS NOT AS "SEXY" AS THE ACCELERATION EFFECT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIdu1lWVW0
THIS VIDEO IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WITH 18 MAGNETS ON THE ROTOR - THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MOTOR TO RECOVER IF DECELERATION WAS INVOLVED.

I ACTUALLY PUT THIS TOGETHER TODAY (FOR FUN) WITH A 235 OHM 30 GAUGE COIL AND GOT ACCELERATION.

Thane

Quote from: Nali2001 on May 25, 2008, 09:29:54 PM
Lately I am more into solid state tech and hildenbrand type systems, as well as anything that sounds promissing. Steven

Hi Steven,

Sorry, off topic, but please check out Luc's motor/rotor design at #45 at NEWS > FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS and my testing at #78 of the same thread if you're interested in hildenbrand type systems.

Regards, Larry

Quote from: i_ron on May 25, 2008, 09:39:04 PM
But give me a shout when you have something definite that you think I might be able to handle
and I will give it a spin, K?
Ron

WELL AFTER YOU POSTED THAT PICTURE OF YOUR GIRLFRIEND WE CAN ALL SEE THAT YOU HAVE JUST ABOUT ALL YOU CAN HANDLE. 

CHEERS
Thane