KORE Technology - Magnetic Force

[rukiddingme]

Ahh, but aren't you using forces against themselves rather than forces acting together. If I understand your energy model, you are taking magnet energy. Turning it into rotation which drives a coil to produce electricity which cancels the magnet. at each step, you have energy loss. You may be 101% efficient overall but at a cost of most of the potential energy simply because you are using most of it against itself and losing some at each step along the way.

I look at it a different way. I think there is an advantage to be gained from the difference between the energy needed to release the grip and the energy gained by the attraction of the permanent magnets to the cores of the electromagnets. Either there is a gain created or there is not. A couple of simple experiments can determine this. I think it is a significant gain. Take two electromagnets, charge the first one. Charge the second electromagnet until there is a null force between them, no attraction or repulsion. Measure the amps to each and see if there is a difference. If there is a difference, we gain that difference in this system by substituting a permanent magnet for one of the electromagnets.

If true, there is no energy loss at this point, in fact we have a gain. We are gaining more energy from the attraction than the release of the grip. Moving the coils from a separate generator and including them in the Kore system does nothing but add more gain. Where is the loss of adding coils, the loss would be if we didn?t make use of the rotating magnets. The same magnets that cause the rotation are the same magnets that create current in the output coils. I think I need to ask you where the loss is?

I'm not diss'ing your idea. I'm trying to offer what I humbly think is an improvement.

I know that. Thanks.     

A purely mechanical KORE could be easier to realize than an electromechanical KORE. A simple and low energy mechanical setup could also provide your field to break the grip or even contribute energy to the system using additional permanent magnets and some iron or other shielding - at least it could be energy neutral overall - which is what you want.

If shielding works well I suppose there might be a way to do it. I have seen the videos of people using shielding to attempt this. Maybe you could figure out a way that cams would move magnets around to pull them out of the way as others approach. If you have any ideas about this, let me know, I?ll think about them.

By the way, my engineering and construction skills ain't so hot either but it isn't stopping me from playing around. Anything you practice at, you will get better at and what better thing to have as a hobby than an (seemingly) impossible puzzle.

I believe that, but I literally don?t have a place to create a work bench. I would love to mess around, I can?t. I am confident I will someday, and when that day comes, I will be all over it. I can?t go out and buy some electromagnets and a couple of variacs right now.

Thanks for your kind words. Let?s just keep on doing what we can.

[rukiddingme]

Here's a copy of the hysteresis graph I found at:

http://www.advancedlab.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Hysteresis

Notice the loop at a' to b'. Notice how it rides above the hystersis loss from 0 to b'.

Hysteresis is eliminated if Kore runs back and forth from a' (the pulse) and b' (the attraction).