Gravity powered water generator

[Brutus]

This is just an after thought.  webby1 showed an air lift pump site on post 95 and got me to wondering if this idea would work.  I had started this tall tank idea as a secondary power supply to enhance the main first idea of the gravity water buckets.  So, the idea here is in that vain I was wondering if I could split the air flow going to the tall tank air bucket supply in tank B and a secondary air lift pump system in the main tank A.   The pressure is built in already from the compression in Tank B.  So forcing the air through the lower water pressure in tank a should give me the needed rise of water to supply the losses in tank A from its main gravity fed system.  Note: This is an addition  to the already operating system of tank A.  It does put more work on the system in tank B.  But if the whole purpose of tank B was to gain enough energy to make tank A operate then this should do it.   And I believe with both tanks running I could get a lot more hp to run a generator.   This is just a concept at this point. 

The newer pump lift system portrayed on that same site could work as well but I would need to build a rotating two or three bucket container to hold air until it tips and allows the air bulk to rise in a pipe and push the water up like a geyser.  More work than I would like to do.  But it should work.  At least that is how I think it should work. 

[Brutus]

This scan is not related to this topic.  It is a water powered generator, but not the topic.   I just wanted to share something I came up with today.  No need to discuss it.  I was just watching so many U-tube video's of people using a pelton wheel or a vortex turbine to generate power from a stream or such that  I just thought why not put a bunch of them together and get some real power going. 

It is a tub with water in it.  I picture a washing machine tub.  Or bigger.  It has a motor mounted on the top with a vortex turbine or other type blade at the end of the shaft.  It will simply spin the water which will in turn spins the side mounted Pelton wheels to run generators mounted on the Pelton wheels.  I picture the motor in the bottom of the washing machine capable of spinning the water also.  (ready made).  A smart drive motor I hear can get up to 1watt per revolution.  (They claim).  So four smart drives could give you 4 kw at 1,000 rpm.  And so on.  The bigger you build, the more generators or alternators you add, the more power you claim.  You need to modify the tank and Pelton wheel placements the faster you spin the water of course.  The Pelton wheels need to be big enough to turn your generator and small enough to get as fast a spin  as possible. 

You can also mount the Pelton wheels so as to utilize a belt pulley drive mounted on the outside in case you go with an alternator so you can step up the rotation to a higher speed.  Many possibilities. 

[Brutus]

Here are some numbers that some had wanted. 

3" diameter water pipe times 6 foot long  at .3673 gallons per foot = 2.204 gallons.

18 foot air pulley diameter divided by 3 = 6 foot of 2.204 gallons.

1 revolution of air pulley = 6.612 gallons.

14 air buckets = 14 gals.divided by 6.244 gal. = 2.242 air pulley revolutions for 1 air bucket conveyor revolution.

or, 4.284 air pulley revolutions for one 2 gal. air bucket conveyor revolution. 

So say ratio of 2.5 to 1 revolutions for 1 gallon buckets and 5 to 1 revolutions for 2 gallon buckets to accommodate the spillage of air into buckets.

     Now for my guess work.  I tried to follow the guide of the Design calculation for water wheels.  Don't know if it really fits this design  but it is all I have. 

Power is equal to the flow times head divided by 11.8. .
So 1 cfs times 7 foot head divided by 11.8= .5932.        .5932 divided by 11.8 = .0502kw.              .0502 times 6 buckets = .301kw.   

                                                                                       .0502 divided by .746 = .06729 hp             .06729 times 6 buckets = .4037 hp. 
                                                                                        double this for 2 gallon buckets and so forth. 

If I made a mistake please feel free to rectify it. 

I modified the schematic for the last time to fix some discrepancies. Like a wheel on the top of the air pulley.  The drag that would have occurred  with the pvc pipe guide that WAS there is now eliminated by replacing it with a free turning  wheel.

The air buckets are showing the deflation factor as it rotates around allowing for less drag.  This gives a better visual of the actual process in motion.  Also the air is shown coming out of the pipe and air bucket for extra visual effect showing the impute and exhaust points better. 

[lancaIV]

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