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This is a, in theory, a working magnet motor. VERY cool!!

Started by Low-Q, November 14, 2007, 09:54:53 PM

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Low-Q

Quote from: Nostradamus2 on November 15, 2007, 03:23:14 AM
Quote from: Low-Q on November 15, 2007, 03:01:19 AM
Anyone can try to run as precise script thay want - there is two suggestions in the RAR-file - you'll every time come out with positive torque. Use Notepad to alter the step values in the LUA-scripts.
Vidar

Don't rely to FEMM simulation results ! It's far from real world. Though FEMM is the best freeware simulation software available today.
You're right, but some excitement doesn't harm anyone :) Just download it and see that it works in FEMM. What ideal "bug" in the software is making this device working? I have no answer except FEMM is not a 3D simulation software. However, to make two magnetic lines interact with eachother, they have to be in the same dimention, so 2D will do for the simulations.

Cheers

Vidar

hansvonlieven

When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Low-Q

Quote from: karl on November 15, 2007, 12:54:23 AM
Hi,
avoid to make the mistake to add discrete momentas insted of integrating the functions of tourque and add them.
My opinion without seeing this device: sumM=0.
Why: the peaks contain more area between the lines than the lower values.
See eden project magnetic therory.
Good day
kaRLfunkel
I have done this error many times, but are learning - eventually ;D
I use the Area-tool in FEMM to measure the torque. And that function allways measure in the correct direction. Other ways is to make a circle around the rotor and mark it with the Contour-tool, but if you mark the circle in oposite order some times, the measurements will fu..k up.
Note! Using the Area-tool requires that the rotor is allways rotating around the 0,0 point in FEMM - with Contour-tool this is not necessary if you remember to mark the two half parts of the circle in the same order every time.

I have ran the LUA-script on many other projects I have in FEMM, but the result is then allways 0.

To be sure, make measurements for one complete revolution.

Vidar

Omnibus

Quote from: Low-Q on November 15, 2007, 03:45:51 AM
Quote from: Nostradamus2 on November 15, 2007, 03:23:14 AM
Quote from: Low-Q on November 15, 2007, 03:01:19 AM
Anyone can try to run as precise script thay want - there is two suggestions in the RAR-file - you'll every time come out with positive torque. Use Notepad to alter the step values in the LUA-scripts.
Vidar

Don't rely to FEMM simulation results ! It's far from real world. Though FEMM is the best freeware simulation software available today.
You're right, but some excitement doesn't harm anyone :) Just download it and see that it works in FEMM. What ideal "bug" in the software is making this device working? I have no answer except FEMM is not a 3D simulation software. However, to make two magnetic lines interact with eachother, they have to be in the same dimention, so 2D will do for the simulations.

Cheers

Vidar
Simulation has to be done in 3D because the nearest neighbors must not be neglected and not all of them are in the same plane. Try using Maxwell3D. Probably, you may ask @Jdo300 here to help you in that. He's an expert in Maxwell3D.

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