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Overunity Machines Forum



New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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truesearch

@Omnibus,

I'm not aware of any "working" models available. I had stumbled onto their site earlier and remembered the use of electro-magnets to get passed the "sticky-point".

Truesearch

Omnibus

Quote from: billmehess on November 22, 2010, 01:42:53 PM
You will find that the energy generated and stored in the cap.  will not be enough to pulse the
rotor thru the sticky spot.

That's the usual understanding. However, have you tried it experimentally yourself or that's just a guess? Sometimes new effects are discovered, you know. Look at what Steorn have done in this respect. Very impressive indeed.

nievesoliveras

Thank you everybody!

I am not building it right now, but it is in my long to do list.

Jesus

billmehess

Hi Omni

Yes I have built quite a number of magnetic motors. The problem with them is that they have very lttle torque in their first ( and subsequent revolutions) At the most in a cap, and I usually use a 4900mf cap. you will see usually  well under 100mv generated and stored in the cap. As we all know you have only the first revolution to be able to provide the necessary work to get past the sticky spot.
Any type of  pulse system will require a lot more stored energy than that to push the rotor past the sticky spot. Also employing a cam system will not work. I have tried many of these. Again when the
stator hits the cam it will cog the system. These cad programs always show them operating so smothly but in reality this is not the case.
I believe a magnetic motor is only possible when viewed as a hybrid system. Where there is some kind of external input that will cause the rotor to "jump". This with multiple revolutions "maybe" might be able to store enough energy in a cap system to in effect rewind the system.
I am sure you remember when I was working with the 30 day wind up clock mechinism. I have taken
the clock motor which will run for 30 day or 43200 minutes. With the pendulum holding a 2" in diameter N-45 magnet it will give me the necessary in and out swing to act on a rotor assembly.
I have been able to get more than one revolution numerous times but so far not more than 1.75 complete revoltions. The timing must be exact so that the stator magnet moves in just at the right time to engage the rotor magnet array. If this can be accomplished then this unit would have a very long time to store energy in a cap. array. Enough to rewind the clock mech. mayvbe? I don't know yet.
Manually the clock mech. takes 12 seconds to rewind. So would it be worth it to store 43,200 min. of generated energy with only having to manually rewind it . I don't know that either. I'll keep playing around and see what developes.
Any one actually trying to build a magnetic motor will see the reasons why it will not work on it's own.

JoinTheFun

But what if you now enhance the cap filling by using exciter/joule thief/captret techniques? Maybe then the cap will have enough to get past the sticky point.