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Overunity Machines Forum



New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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Low-Q

Quote from: marianpiti on December 02, 2010, 11:09:42 AM
Omnibus... in my opinion you are on the wrong way if that is your model. About my prototype, wait just a little and you will see it. Everybody will see it.

The Observer... I dont want to be rude, but this is basic physics. Now, my question is... How do you plan to put some energy in your big radius device (and heavy)
in order to have some kinetic energy into the system. This is the challenge...
Weight isn't the problem. The problem is to gain more energy than you put in. Any heavy wheel will start to spin if friction isn't stopping it from running - IF there is excess energy which will accelerate the wheel. It only takes longer time for a given amount of energy to accelerate a heavy wheel versus a light one.

Vidar

marianpiti

Hi Low...this was my point also... how he plan to put energy in the system in order to make it run, and keep running.
How about your project ? Do you have a solution regarding on what your magnets run and what will hold the turning component ?

Omnibus

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 02, 2010, 12:11:17 PM

While the part about the larger heavier wheel being able to store more energy is true, you left out the most important part of the equation, and that is it also takes a lot more energy to get it spinning in the first place.

Bill

Quite correct. I was just gonna say that. Great minds think alike.

mscoffman

You don't get out of the fact that the machine has to generate more energy
than it loses *per each of its cycles* or it will simply spin down over time.
A sufficient flywheel is required to lift the weight once and keep the mechanism
from slowing too much when it does.

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If one could lift/drop the V-bar electronically with a solenoid, stepper motor or
servo motor based on the angle of the wheel. To optimize the wheel's acceleration
profile- if any. It then would be fairly easy to;

a) calculate how much energy is required to match a wheel's magnet acceleration
profile relative to RPM's. This can be done with a string wrapped around the axle
with a weight hanging over the table edge on a pulley.

b) calculate how much energy is required to lift the V-bar. Using it's weight, gravity
constant and lifting distance, assuming one is going to throw this energy away.

With these two pieces of information one could see at a glance whether to go ahead
and build the cam lift mechanism. The cam can try to recover some energy from the
V-bar drop or not, based in wheel rpm.

I'd feel a lot better at knowing analytically if one is generating sufficient energy
magnetically rather than just building something that may not work.

:S:MarkSCoffman

nievesoliveras

Congratulations @omnibus!

You are on the right track. The inventors minds are at work now.
I suggest adding a counterweight to the lifting piece that will go on the axle to have the needed momentum.

Jesus