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New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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maw2432

Quote from: Scorch on November 13, 2011, 01:15:42 PM
I do have hard copies of Ed's books on my shelf as well as the Passels Information Network book, about Ed, titled: "How to read his writings".

I actually have no concern; when the current state of physics says: "Perpetual motion is impossible".
Just as I have no concern; when the current state of physics (of the PAST) says: "Heavier than air, powered, flight is impossible".

None of these things are relevant if I can still tap into the forces of the universe and build a device that gives the APPEARANCE of 'perpetual motion'.

Just because I, and physics, can't explain how Ed built, and lighted, his castle doesn't mean he didn't do it.

You are correct in stating there is no reason to continue such a philosophical discussion. If the orbits of planets, for billions of years, is not considered to be 'perpetual motion' then whats the point of discussing any farther?

On the other hand, Ed could still tap into whatever energy keeps the planets in orbit, and use this energy to levitate, and perfectly balance, 30 ton blocks of coral and also keep his generator spinning.

So WHAT is IT?

If we can't call it "perpetual motion" then lets just called it: "Unexplained Continuous Motion". (Explanation to come at a later date when science finally catches up to what Ed (and the Wright brothers) accomplished. :)

Thank you for your advice on transferring an image but I am planning a simpler approach.

This device gives me the impression that it really should be a demonstration TOY that anybody can build. Therefore my goal is to try and keep it as simple as possible. This way, if it actually works, anybody else can throw one together and pass on the knowledge.

My plan to "map it out" is to use nothing more than a piece of paper, the width and length of the rotor surface, a ruler, and a little basic math.

Simply based on how many ferrites will fit into a V-Shape pattern with spacing somewhere around half the diameter of the ferrites. It simply needs to look good, and symmetrical, and hopefully replicate whats in the original video.

Once this is drawn on paper, using my pen, I will make a hole for the position of each ferrite. Then simply lay the paper on the rotor and use my pen to place a marks on the rotor. Then I can attach ferrites.

This is all accomplished by 'dead reckoning' with no complicated math or fancy engineering procedures.
A picture, in my mind, I then build with my hands.

Just like your video of the unusual aircraft that doesn't look like it will fly.
All I need to know is that I can create an airfoil shape by simply attaching a board, and all the wiring, on top of a totally flat wing. Doesn't matter if its aerodynamically efficient as long as I create a low pressure differential on top of the wing and build a relatively balanced aircraft. And even balance is not super critical because control surfaces can compensate to a certain extent. Therefore pigs, and lawnmowers, can fly! :)

And, in the case of this device, all I need to know is that a V-Shape concentrates magnetic force. Which has been in front of my face all my life. Try picking up some nails with a magnet. Ever wonder WHY they always "stick" the strongest at the POINTS of the nails instead of the heads where there is actually more, ferrous, mass?

I see you have added a copy of that video, I showed you the other day, to your youtube page. Glad to see it because, sometimes, these videos disappear and I probably should do the same at my own youtube page.

This video is just another great demonstration of the V-Gate effect.
Just like the V-Gate tracks and cars that many have replicated, it simply uses a series V shaped, ferrous, pieces configured as four, separate, and staggered tracks resulting in a continuous motion as four magnets continuously attract each track of V-gates as they come around.
And it was built using common stuff including a 4" PVC pipe union, CD, CD drive bearing, ceramic magnets and what I assume is just soft iron, V-Shaped, pieces that appear to be some type of horse shoe nails or rail spikes.

See Unexplained Continuous Motion (UCM) video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBIx_bq6f3g

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Your idea explained...

"And, in the case of this device, all I need to know is that a V-Shape concentrates magnetic force. Which has been in front of my face all my life. Try picking up some nails with a magnet. Ever wonder WHY they always "stick" the strongest at the POINTS of the nails instead of the heads where there is actually more, ferrous, mass?"   

Less weight at that tip of the nail???  Magnetic force easier to move that end of the nail. 

More to come young weed hopper.

Bill


Arrow

Quote from: maw2432 on November 13, 2011, 02:14:40 PM
Your idea explained...

Less weight at that tip of the nail???  Magnetic force easier to move that end of the nail. 

More to come young weed hopper.

Bill
Hi dear Bill, my English is not so developed to understand the slang.Will you bee so kind to "translate" from English to English
"More to come young weed hopper." is this mean "young spamer"?
Well do you really think and know that nails dose not premagnetized before acting with other magnets by the natural Earth gravity?
Did you measure them before act with other magnets?may I see an video example?

I had mesured and all my 1000 nails was magntized... I want to know by who and how and why if it is not Earth gravity?
Sorry, I dont think that there is only nails end light weight are playing here such "games" with magnets...
guess light mass of domen at th end need less magnet power to be magntized and from that sharp end iron start to be natural magnet under the force of Earth gravity. Nature of planet will never give you chance to avoid in iron domen stright vectors...

I will tell you more, even iron powder (0.1mm small parts) are premagnetized before acting with magnets to show us magnet force lines in future...

sorry for my english

thanks in advanced for help to understand you better.

Truly
Rob

Arrow

Quote from: Scorch on November 13, 2011, 01:15:42 PM
Therefore pigs, and lawnmowers, can fly! :)
}:>
I really like your sense of humor:) When I will finish all these projects I will try to put on one pig on the fly :)))))))))))))
be sure it will fly from my hands, just I need to be far from that place as far as "pig"  landing will not sussesfull defiantly, but it will be funny to see such flight:)

Truly
Rob

Scorch

Ok; finally got around to completing some more fabrication. Yay! :)

Turns out its actually easier to map the V than I originally thought.
This because the extra long ferrites are not going to need any spacing along the length so all I needed to make a pattern for is JUST a plain, paper, V. (See images)

And, even if I did need some spacing, I would still just use a plain paper V then use a spacing tool / jig for final installation of the ferrites.

I am a little concerned about the length of these off the shelf ferrites which are 10mm Diameter X 20mm Long. Because of this length, and the radius of the rotor, the ferrites are pretty well pointed away from each other along the length of the V.

Wish I could find something shorter off the shelf.
Might try fabricating a rotor with some smaller diameter ferrites that are shorter.

Anyway; here are the progress photos.

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maw2432

Quote from: Arrow on November 13, 2011, 03:29:08 PM
Hi dear Bill, my English is not so developed to understand the slang.Will you bee so kind to "translate" from English to English
"More to come young weed hopper." is this mean "young spamer"?
Well do you really think and know that nails dose not premagnetized before acting with other magnets by the natural Earth gravity?
Did you measure them before act with other magnets?may I see an video example?

I had mesured and all my 1000 nails was magntized... I want to know by who and how and why if it is not Earth gravity?
Sorry, I dont think that there is only nails end light weight are playing here such "games" with magnets...
guess light mass of domen at th end need less magnet power to be magntized and from that sharp end iron start to be natural magnet under the force of Earth gravity. Nature of planet will never give you chance to avoid in iron domen stright vectors...

I will tell you more, even iron powder (0.1mm small parts) are premagnetized before acting with magnets to show us magnet force lines in future...

sorry for my english

thanks in advanced for help to understand you better.

Truly
Rob

"young weed hopper"    is someone who is learning. 

I suggest that you identify the problems with the design then solve those problems. 
First what are the problems?   Try to write them out. 

Bill