New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

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Are there any suggestions as to the SPACING of these magnets along a five degree V-ramp?


Scorch.


PS: OU web form still double spacing everything as I use GOOGLE CHROME.

Hi dear Scorch,
I can only recommend you go with us with this drawing logic http://www.sendspace.com/file/f6fosn
Magnets are arrived and  we had start to read them.Our works started!
http://s07.radikal.ru/i180/1112/21/b3f54aefa1ec.jpg

You are asking the most good question when asking about the gap between magnets.
So, our conclusions are the following in this issue:
-gap shall not be less than 2.3mm and no more 3mm when you are using 10mmx5m Neo magnets
Why it is good question - you need to read your own magnets pole force outlines by the magnet viewer as I had show on video below and some pics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-ILhuvs_TI
http://i026.radikal.ru/1112/8f/1cfbaa1b320c.jpg
http://s017.radikal.ru/i413/1112/1b/7eaf2f3cfefc.jpg
http://i058.radikal.ru/1112/8a/379666c2b063.jpg


Why you need to read - pole force outlines shall become almost a straight line with just a little "wow" as digit 8. As much outline are straight and do not have "wow" that much V-track will be more powerfull, but here we have warring - do put magnets more close than 2.3mm because huge magnet force degradation will come soon.in gap 3mm it is will lost its magnetic force in 1 year about on 7-10%.Every 1mm additional in gap prolonging the life of magnets on about 2-3% after 2.3mm but you are loosing moment of rotor by increasing of that gap.

To show what I mean by "wow"( sorry for that crazy word, I dont know other to explane in english) , and how outlines of fields are becoming almost straight when you are using neo magnet by mentioned dimensions and gap - hope you can take my (our) advise Sir!

Our news in project progress now already will come soon!


Truly
Rob

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First steps in fabrication of V-gate. We decided to go with flexible gate type to be able to play with it in such need for many different tests.
This gate going to be placed on EPP rotor. Mean time we are going to glue it to rotor dram, but if we will get all what we calculated in math part then this structure going to be placed on rotor by Velcro. Such tech solution will give us ability to change gate magnets in 10 min if they will be damaged or degraded by its force.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR8ZMHg8ao8

and here is our math source base. finally understood how to show it to you and find it in YT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKmJVZCoMOI
truly
rob

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Interesting, I also thought about arranging magnets in phi distances etc., but didn't try many experiments. Magnets are a bitch somehow... but maybe there is a way to make permanent magnet motors work with phi maths as a base.

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Guys, I have bad news about my purchased magnet, especially magnet for top bar magnet. Magnetic viewer show us bad picture when we look at the composit magnet magnetic field structure:( God bless us that we have that good tool!!!
so, I made video to warn you all what you shall not to buy for top bar magnets magnets Information based on our experiments with alive V-gate model that we have
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlzHZyqWZJ0

Dear gauschor, you are right!! Magnets are a bitch somehow!!!! and there are no way to understand what we are purchasing ((((((((
About Phi - if you wish go with our math model, I had put drawings in DXF format and in the PDF format in pages ago,  you can find them. If not tell me and I will live new link here to that drawings and our math model.Hope you will understand our drawing language step by step developed logic

I am absolutely disappointed about fabricated rotor that we have got last night. It is going to be re fabricated by CNC already. I am angry as crazy animal now, sorry guys:( There are no easy ways to get this damn motor... f...ck:( Project postponed up to the end of February... Magnets are arriving 3 weeks to us:(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTvXJKFYnUo

Bar magnet - how it must be at it's range of size based on our tests.File has cad 1:1 scale DXF drawing and its pic. at JPG format.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/e3s41h

We ( all our team guys) want to congratulate you all with coming Christmas and Happy New Year 2012! Wish you best mountain health, happiness and better financial situation at all over the new 2012!

Truly
Rob

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just a little info update  A note from Howard R.Johnson about V-gate
Iput on comments torrent file to download full movie(670mb)
it has russian translation of movie,sorry
truly
rob