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New permanent magnet motor on youtube from Roobert33

Started by hartiberlin, November 17, 2010, 05:47:43 AM

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Omnibus

Quote from: ramset on December 30, 2010, 10:30:51 AM
So Omni,
I'm confused about who this Calloway fellah is.

Is he the man we talked to ?
the one Sterling says "doesn't like him any more"?

If so, we both know he's a really nice fellow with some amazingly cool ideas.
Email his number to Sean,tell him to call him !He has a whole diferent method now [the four stator thingy]

Chet

No, I don't think he's the guy. The person we spoke to was some unrelated individual having nothing to do with the video an all. I don't really understand how he came into the picture.

lumen

The cam idea is out!
Why would you expend rotor energy to lift the magnet, when you could simply indent the rotor to achieve the same effect?
The rotor could simply have an indentation that followed the same curve as the came provides by moving the external magnet. Then the magnet could remain stationary! This would conserve wasted energy and increase rotor RPM.


Omnibus

Quote from: lumen on December 30, 2010, 12:10:19 PM
The cam idea is out!
Why would you expend rotor energy to lift the magnet, when you could simply indent the rotor to achieve the same effect?
The rotor could simply have an indentation that followed the same curve as the came provides by moving the external magnet. Then the magnet could remain stationary! This would conserve wasted energy and increase rotor RPM.

I don't think the cam idea is the problem. The problem is that the excess energy obtained (which is undeniable) is not quite enough in the usual rendition to do all the work needed to overcome all the energy barriers before the next loop begins. The track is too short. Lengthening the track, on the other hand, will lead to yet additional burden. Some optimum should be sought and the first thing to do, I think, is to lighten all the elements of that rig. You need tweaking in all these devices. Even the magnetic propulsor won't work without fine adjustment, still the more this tricky device.

lumen

Quote from: Omnibus on December 30, 2010, 12:28:29 PM
I don't think the cam idea is the problem. The problem is that the excess energy obtained (which is undeniable) is not quite enough in the usual rendition to do all the work needed to overcome all the energy barriers before the next loop begins. The track is too short. Lengthening the track, on the other hand, will lead to yet additional burden. Some optimum should be sought and the first thing to do, I think, is to lighten all the elements of that rig. You need tweaking in all these devices. Even the magnetic propulsor won't work without fine adjustment, still the more this tricky device.

But if you provide the same change in distance from the rotor to the magnet by changing the shape of the rotor, then  no additional friction is incurred. Additionally, this removes the RPM limit from increased delay time in moving the stator magnet. More RPM = more power.
I have already computer modeled this problem and found the solution and now working on the project.



DreamThinkBuild

Hi Lumen,

Quote...when you could simply indent the rotor to achieve the same effect?

That is exactly what I believe, watching Laurent's video of him doing it by hand he shows different magnets but his hand is still taking the same path to get rotation. I proposed a fixed deformed cylinder which would have the same path that your hand makes as you pull away from the gate. It would be inverse though as a external wheel will rotate around the fixed center track. You would have more magnets that are getting pulled along the track then those that are being pushed through the gate. This offset of force might be enough to get it to get past gate without relying on external mechanics.