Strategy Ruminations

[teslaalset]

@Omnibus,

What are those green and red 'switches' in you circuit diagram?

b.t.w. the earlier discussions were started by you here, if I am correct:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8411.3045

[Omnibus]

@teslaalset,

Thanks a lot for the link.

These are not switches but are the probes measuring the current I and the voltage V at the points they are placed at. When you run the simulation another screen opens up showing the time transients and you have to have set the probes of what is to be displayed in these graphs.

The program is a killer. It is used by all major research universities as a teaching and research tool. I was really amazed that noone has ever mentioned it so far in our discussions (I, for one, first heard of it a couple of weeks ago due to @poynt99). With this program it becomes really easy to demonstrate what I'm claiming without the need of expensive equipment and obviously that fact scared the hell out of those who are in charge of the eng-tips forum. Evidently, that forum is influential and they don't want to have undergrad and grad students, who are required to use PSpice to suddenly find out something they are not supposed to.

[teslaalset]

@Omnibus,

You have triggered my curiousity. I will try that program as well as soon as time allows.

But a simple question: if the circuitry is that simple, why not try it in practice?

[Omnibus]

@teslaalset,

I was wrong PSpice hasn't been mentioned in our discussions. It has, at that, in that very thread you mentioned above. Check out this: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8411.msg247396#msg247396 . The amazing thing is that if you do the simulation right you'll get a different answer from what that fellow demonstrates. One should not rely on the analysis of the data made by PSpice but should do his own transparent analysis of his own of the data generated by PSpice. So, get the I and V data and process it outside of PSpice, in Excel, say. In a digital machine such as the computer we're using for the calculations one should be careful to reduce the arithmetic to the lowest possible number of operations. Otherwise, inevitable calculation errors are piled up which obscure the effect.

Also, I found PSpice mentioned in other threads of our forum with OU claims (the current RC and LRC claim is the simplest and the most straightforward, as far as I can see. I don't know what the merits of these other claims are). Now that may explain why those controlling eng-tips forum were so prompt is banning me (literally within minutes of posting my reply). They've probably had "bad" experience with others using PSpice and posting resukts they don't like. This is a scandal to no end.

[Omnibus]

Here is an example of a LRC sim. In this particular case the Pout/Pin = 2. Notice, without voltage offset. If, however, the inductance and voltage offset are tweaked little bit one can get the most intriguing negative value of Pout/Pin. Negative value of Pout/Pin means that in addition to obtaining the dissipative heat in the R, all the rest of the energy is returned to the energy source. As I noted more than once, the excess energy in this case is due to the saving from the input. That is the only case of excess energy in solid state devices that I know of that can be demonstrated so categorically.