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Joule Ringer!

Started by lasersaber, December 29, 2010, 02:19:43 PM

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gadgetmall

@Jesus  the resistor in this circuit on the hazens coil in series with 5 germanium diodes is 7 k . all the other resistors are the same as last . a 1 k pot and the other is 22 ohms .
thanks so much .

Albert
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nievesoliveras

@gadgetmall

What does it say on the words at the secondary coil?

Jesus

TinselKoala

Ah. I see. You aren't concerned about input/output energy balances at all. You are simply trying to energize a CF bulb enough to glow visibly for the longest time. Well, it's very simple actually, and your circuit is converging on the correct way to do it. You use recognized principles of induction and resonance to produce voltage pulses that are high enough to energize the phosphors in the bulb to whatever brilliance you like, then you shorten those pulses to reduce the energy in them until the bulb begins to dim visibly. The phosphor will continue to glow for much longer than the applied pulse, if you give it enough voltage. You can arrive at the correct values for your components by simple calculations or by substitution of values into a sim or a real circuit, as you are doing. If you get the frequency right you won't even need to hook the bulb up with wires, it will light wirelessly. See my videos for ample proof of this.

But you will get higher voltages, shorter pulse times, and much better efficiency if you use air-core coils properly coupled and energizing pulses to the coil's primary that have as fast a rise and fall time as possible: that is, rectangular pulses. This requires careful layout and component choices because stray inductances can destroy your waveshape.
The advantage of the type of circuit you are working with here is that it is self-triggering and makes a fairly good spike on the output. There's a lot that can be done yet to optimize it though.

You are right about the relative internal resistances of the battery vs. the capacitor, of course. That is why the capacitor can produce a faster pulse and a better risetime into the primary, and it is also one reason that the capacitor in your circuit runs down quickly relative to a battery. The comparisons you are making to other circuits that run a long time on a capacitor are really not relevant. I've got an LED simply hooked up across a 5 Farad 3.5 volt cap that will stay lit for hours, so what, and a JT that I just threw together out of spare parts -- I used an unmodified miniature toroid already wound from a PC power supply -- will run for a couple of days on a dead AA battery, so what.

Mk1

@TinselKoala

I hope you have ideas on how to improve the laser saber circuit , the one the lights a Cfl on a 10 000 mf for over 30 mins .

@gadget

I got a idea , lets say we get it kicking for over 30 min like lasersaber , we could build a really small jt on a watch battery to charge the cap to 9 v or so . I believe i can do this less then 5 seconds , so the actual battery would only need to work for 4 min a day . But i am sure i have other ways of charging a secondary cap ...

I was thinking what if you put the air core coil over the fuji transformer , it should do interesting stuff it could capture the em field with out screwing with it if well placed . I was also wondering if the voltage was high enough to put a sparkgap parallel to the diodes , to act as a sort of resistor .

Mark

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I just came back from the store they did not have 10000 , pretty hard to get bummer , but got 20 of 22 000(0.022F) at 10 cent each , i know they are not good ,but maybe if i make cap bank series and parallel it might improve my chances . Plus only 2 bucks  ???




gadgetmall

Hi Mark . I have My ideas about using the circuit Ground loop made for me on my previous Heater light project . If we can get the cfl to light for 30+mins like lightsaber then this circuit alex made can be programmed to give a pulse back to the electrocaps and possible run for a year or more on an aa battery . The circuit only requires 60 microamps at 1 volt to run all those chips on that board . I do have about 20 boards he made and will gladly pass them out if i can find wher i put them .
ALSO , @TinselKoala
there are other things at work here and this might apply to reguaging and even verify the recharge effect of a benidi . Its a signal on the plates to a battery or capacitor.
Check this out .its a repost .
a New way to charge batteries is in the works . It takes the charge time down from hours to mins using a 25 gighertz signal on the plates to accept ions easly . Check this link http://www.physorg.com/news187554124.html

As a Ham radio operator this is very interesting quote:researchers simulated the lithium-ion battery-charging process by simulating the intercalation (i.e. “insertion”) of lithium ions into the battery’s graphite anode. Although intercalation is just one part of the charging process (along with diffusion), it dominates the charging time.

In the charging process, lithium ions first diffuse within the battery’s electrolyte until they reach the graphite anode. At this interface, ions must overcome an energy barrier in order to be intercalated into the anode.

In their simulations, Hamad and his team found that an additional oscillating electric field can lower this energy barrier, enabling lithium ions to intercalate more quickly into the anode. The oscillating field also increases the diffusion rate, which helps further reduce the overall charging time, albeit to a lesser extent.

This may have somthing to do with the effect i am getting also with reguaging . there is a signal stimulating the plates..

Also the CFL lamp is bright enuff to read by and light a room and this circuit will light the cfl with one wire .I noticed that right off . Its the feedback i am interested in that is prolonging and adding to the transistor running power  is what i am inteseted in .The Modification i am doing to LIGHTSABERS CIRCUIT is simular in that i am adding power back in the circuit at some frequency thru the cfl ionized gas  and the further rectify it with a germanium diod to make a really big negitive spike  on top of a signal..

Gadget
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