Mars color

[raburgeson]

I'm sure I am on the right track and I can even see the fork truck without even downloading it and zooming in on it.

[Koen1]

The only way I can clarify the no teeshirt is crop it down even further so here. And the fork truck is clear, I don't know maybe try a different contrast and brightness on your monitor. Get 5 People in and ask them if they can see a fork truck and don't tell them it's Mars. Bet you don't have a problem finding it then. Man with his back turned to you below.

I'm using a 21 inch CRT IBM monitor set brightness and contrast at default. I can see it clear.

Well we looked at the pic (and some others) with 3 people on a full HD screen of 80cm diagonal,
zoomed in and out and fidgeted with the contrast and brightness and everything,
and all we see is a vague whitish blur next to more blur.
We cannot determine if it is a man or not, it is just a different coloured blur.
We can certainly not determine if "he" has his back or his front turned to the camera...
Nor can we determine if the other blur is anything at all, let alone a forklift.

But then again, all 3 of us have 20-20 vision so we do not have experience with
guesstimating images that hit our visual cortex in the form of a vague blur.
It may be that people with bad eyesight who are used to seeing vague blurs
all the time can clearly identify this specific type of blur as a man with his back
turned to the camera, and the other specific type of blur as a forklift...

I'm just offering suggestions here because you seem so convinced that you're
seeing clear shapes at all, and I don't want to dismiss that as pure wishfull thinking...

@Bulbz: yeah, indeed, shoot a billion dollar probe to the next planet and use cheapass
wallmart webcams for eyes... make sense? No it don't.

[Bennyboy]

Unfortunately Koen my eyes are shithouse and I cannot make out anything either...

@Raburgeson are you seriously telling us that you see these things in all the photo's you've posted??

[raburgeson]

I can't change the data that would make me as dirty as they are. Look the light is really bright, the sun is behind him on the left and a window is reflecting on the right. Tell you what, these military game players are everywhere. If you know one have one that has sniped, that's just about every one of them, have one of them show you the best head shot and chest shot for a man on a forklift with the sun behind him. Don't give him any more details than that. Show him this tiny crop and I don't think you will get any hesitation. I think he'll start pointing right away. I did change the picture for my wife with just a couple quick air brushes. You've been seeing what others want you to see for far to long already. The government of the United States has been taking more than poetic license with these pictures and I can't do that to anybody and then sleep at night.

I'll tell you something else about the rover pictures to, the post with the 2 concentric rings around the top has the same reflection right down to the last pixel on it no matter what photograph it's in. It doesn't matter if it's a color or gray scale picture or any thing else. Lot's of times the paste work on it comes out wrong an the whole post isn't displayed.

The crop with the silver pipe on the side of the rover doesn't show the tank and has no driver at the time the picture was taken. The tank can't be view because of the curve of the pipe. If it's not there it's simply no there.

[Koen1]

I can't change the data that would make me as dirty as they are. Look the light is really bright, the sun is behind him on the left and a window is reflecting on the right. Tell you what, these military game players are everywhere. If you know one have one that has sniped, that's just about every one of them,

Although in my country they are not "everywhere" at all, may have to do with a less militaristic attitude, I do know a few, and I can tell you that it is not true that the majority of them have been snipers.

have one of them show you the best head shot and chest shot for a man on a forklift with the sun behind him. Don't give him any more details than that. Show him this tiny crop and I don't think you will get any hesitation.

Well in fact I did, and the guy who happens to have been
in the red beret special forces and happens to have done sniper missions told me he'd never had to snipe anything or anyone with such crappy visibility. He said
even the worst scope he's had gave him a much more detailed and much clearer picture than the crappy crop-out. He did hypothesise that, assuming it is a man,
there is a lot of glare and reflection going on there as if he were standing next to a mirror in a very bright spotlight, but there must be some kind of fog or haze
because the image is so blurry and vague. Or the scope was of very low quality, or the camera was junk; in that case only the bright light remains.
Assuming this was all so, he did point at a spot where he would aim. Which is not very difficult, for with a good long-range sniper rifle with nice caliber
it should be possible to tag the head or upper torso which will be lethal. But he repeated several times that, if given that info and given the order he would
assume it was the target and would fire, but if not given the info and the order he would not have concluded that the blur must be a man. He said the image
is just too fuzzy and blurry for that. He suggested that moving images might clear up the problem, as human bodily motion is quite typical and easy to
recognise even if you can't see the details. But with such a still pic of a vague blur he would have to go on intel, he would not conclude it was definately
a man if asked for confirmation. And he does not see a forklift either.

I think he'll start pointing right away.

Yes, when told that he is looking at a man he did point at a spot (or actually a zone) where he would aim.
But he needed to be told it was a man, he could not conclude that from the blur on the picture.

I did change the picture for my wife with just a couple quick air brushes. You've been seeing what others want you to see for far to long already. The government of the United States has been taking more than poetic license with these pictures and I can't do that to anybody and then sleep at night.

Please do not think I am accusing you of producing false pictures. I do believe that you honestly feel you are seeing a man, and a forklift, and what not.
I just do not see them, I only see blurs, and I would really like to get a bit of a clearer look. I'd love to see a construction worker with a yellow hard hat
on a picture of what Nasa claims is a barren and empty planet!

I'll tell you something else about the rover pictures to, the post with the 2 concentric rings around the top has the same reflection right down to the last pixel on it no matter what photograph it's in. It doesn't matter if it's a color or gray scale picture or any thing else. Lot's of times the paste work on it comes out wrong an the whole post isn't displayed.

The crop with the silver pipe on the side of the rover doesn't show the tank and has no driver at the time the picture was taken. The tank can't be view because of the curve of the pipe. If it's not there it's simply no there.

Tank? I'm sorry, I must have missed that earlier, but did you say there's a tank on Mars? As in tracks, pantzer, cannon, tank?
Wow...
I mean, the colour shifts, the "martian bunny" the rover drove and backed up over, the weird-looking shrapnel with what look like
engine parts littering the surface ("rocks" with symmetrical square holes in it? Right angles? yeah, sure, we see them all the time in nature... ),
even that video of a landing where you hear Russian and American at the same time and the American voice shouts "it's 1961, and we've landed
on Mars! And we've got LIFE! If they ever release this, this is going down as the greatest day in history!", the very clear evidence of the pictures
having been manipulated and parts airbrushed out of them,
there's so much that doesn't fit the official story...
And I'd like to see that expanded with pictures of construction workers in forklifts on the planet surface and the other things you mention.
But so far I don't see the things you claim to see, I just see blurs...

If you can get any more and clearer pictures of such things and people that shouldn't be there, I would like to see them.