Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric

[RAD-HHO]

Hello all,
I wanted to run this replacement nebulizer board by you guys.  I received this from a friend he says its about $22 a piece and you need to order 4 minimum.  It looks to have a really nice controller on it that could be easily modified.  And 4 of them put out quite a bit.  Take a look.

I like it!

[RAD-HHO]

Another thought about stacking amplitudes.

We are aiming for 43 KHZ, right?  Well, didn't keeley have other frequencies he liked to "stack" on too? 

The way I see it, you'd be pushing all those waves into one spot @ 43 KHZ.  When they all hit the same node at the same time, they induce the phase change.  So how would you get a higher phase change?  Higher frequencies would be stacked on within the same harmonic range.  This means Sonofusion would simply be the collapse onto one point (or a very small point), but with additional higher/faster frequency amplitudes -- that way when the phase change is complete, you would have a higher resulting change, from the higher energy inut. 

I say higher, and not more powerful/stronger (though they may be) -- because higher energy would need to be of a faster osculation than the primary frequency would be.

I am also under the impression that water, or any element for that matter -- would simply be different vibrating frequencies.  By stimulating them at ultrasonic frequencies, I think we might be hitting an "undertone" of what the actual vibrating frequency.  This would explain why the waves collapsing would induce the phase change.  I perceive this, because they are adding power or energy to a much higher harmonic (vibrating rate). (Which, would be much faster than I can currently compare anything to.) 

Question is -- what is it that is vibrating impossibly fast?  If you haven't read any books on Aether theory, it might be a good idea to become acquainted with it.

I'm chewing over some thoughts,
==Romo

I'm thinking along the same lines.  Before this project I was very interested in Michael John Nunnerley's thread on none electrolytic splitting of H2O.  The theory there is if you mix two frequencies that are 6X apart you get many harmonics and split the water.  Like Powerme said, the only difference between rf and usf is wavelength.  Maybe if we use two ultrasonic transducers tuned 6X apart......and those frequencies in tune with the size and shape of the chamber.....

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Rick

[Slovenia]

I think that 36 volts is significant with regard to these foggers.  In one Power1's earlier posts, he touched on the 36 volts briefly and then I don't think he mentioned it again.

In the post he was talking about 24 volts and then said you needed to up the voltage to 36 volts.  He said this could be accomplished in two ways, (i.e.: adjustable transformer or winding your own coil to get the extra voltage). 

I just thought I'd add this again.  I need to go back and see if I can find his actual verbage.  He said on numerous posts that this was not hard to do and that we were making it to hard.  He also said to stay with the cheaper China piezo and that the cheapest foggers Mainland Mart had were adequate.

So, what do you think?

P.S.:  Those of you who are contributing here are doing a great job.  Comparing notes saves a lot of time and trouble.  That way nobody has to make the same mistakes twice if everyone reads what has been shared.

[petar113507]

Hi Power To Be,

Do we need two pond foggers in our cell or is one okay?  For experimental purposes, I was trying to keep my cost down until I had a good proof of concept and then I was willing to go a lot further with expenses.  Thanks.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Howdy slovenia. I am using also from mainland mart foggers, 2X Dk-27, and some other one that I found around here.  I will be switching over to just the ceramic transducer, and mount it to the chamber myself, and should be able to hook it directly with the oscilator circut to produce a desired, mildly "tunable" freqency.   (that honestly seems to be the most economical for multiple long-term prototypes)

Powerme did not suggest to use more than one fogger -- but in his fuel chamber drawing he did seem to have two foggers.

The reason I am switching over soley to the transducers -- Because the DK27's don't modify very easily.  You've gotta rip out the expoxy/rubber underside, and I still haven't figured out a clean way to accomplish that.
I figure, overdoing it will still get me a functioning prototype, whereas too little, I will be stuck waiting on shipping again.

Hope this helps,
==Romo

[Slovenia]

Hi Romo,

Good to hear from you.  Yes, in his diagram, Power1 shows two piezos, and two receivers.  So, it makes one think that maybe two should be used.  I like what you are doing.  You are right, this project could get very expensive with the foggers by them selves not to mention the brass horns and bowls.  I like what you are doing very much.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Howdy slovenia. I am using also from mainland mart foggers, 2X Dk-27, and some other one that I found around here.  I will be switching over to just the ceramic transducer, and mount it to the chamber myself, and should be able to hook it directly with the oscilator circut to produce a desired, mildly "tunable" freqency.   (that honestly seems to be the most economical for multiple long-term prototypes)

Powerme did not suggest to use more than one fogger -- but in his fuel chamber drawing he did seem to have two foggers.

The reason I am switching over soley to the transducers -- Because the DK27's don't modify very easily.  You've gotta rip out the expoxy/rubber underside, and I still haven't figured out a clean way to accomplish that.
I figure, overdoing it will still get me a functioning prototype, whereas too little, I will be stuck waiting on shipping again.

Hope this helps,
==Romo