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Overunity Machines Forum



Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric

Started by The Power To Be, February 17, 2011, 06:11:02 AM

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b_rads

Quote from: Super God on March 24, 2011, 06:13:29 PM
For my design I'm going to use an elastic material to adhere the crystals to, first I'm going to just surround the transducer, then space it further away to see what the difference is. Maybe a balloon like material. Since I am the creator, I think this would be best to acclimate myself to this new system and see what happens.
Post From JoesCell2 (this is the opinion of a private person):
"Keely found that water will explode at a frequency of 42,712.2 Hz. ... did it with a Quartz Bowl....Think Quartz and how symmetry applies to magnets because that is how quartz crystals are formed, via symmetry."
I plan to submerge a small crystal bowl covered with a coffee filter and a few crystals freefloating and direct my acoustic horn at the bowl.  All parts are on order and hope to have results soon.
Brad S.

fishman

Quote from: Sprocket on March 25, 2011, 10:47:46 AM
Why does everyone seem to be going the route of making Zn0 themselves, rather than just buying the stuff?  It would make sense if this was something that was suppressed and unobtainable, but it's not - it's dirt-cheap, ($11 per Ib, shipping included) high-grade and easily bought online.  And what is this obsession with the piezo's frequency?  Unless I'm mistaken this has nothing to do with 'resonance', all you're looking for is something that will produce lots of 'fog' and I'm sure the piezo manufacturers have already chosen the optimum frequency for the transducer in question to produce this effect.  The premise of this thread is that the piezo/Zn0 combination greatly enhances the production of HHO, yet 20 pages later, not one single confirmation of this - it either works or it doesn't!  And "cavitation" is now entering the fray! Aaaaggghhhh......

I believe the link you refer to is for Zn0 nano podwer, not Zno nano crystals.

This new optimum frequency 43kHz thing,  is a curve that was not really said to be a requirement originally. I was originally under the impression that was not required. 
Changing the frequency of a fogger is beyond my capability, so for that part im in a indefinite standby mode. 

The other thing that holds me up is adhering the crystals. I cant help but think if i use any adhesive that the adhesive would wick up the crystals, and probably render them useless? I hate to waste the crystals so im really in no hurry to try that.

The 2 or 3 people how have tried the crystals free floating had no positive results to report. I guess i could go ahead and do this test scene i have no good answers to the other 2 issues.

I did put the US fogger aimed at the crystals attached to my cooking jar.  I did not see any bubbles form. 

I don't think its as simple as "ether it works or it doesn't" Like most things, if you don't do it right, it is not going to work.

Slovenia


Energetic Forum (Power To Be Thread)
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7365-discussion-best-way-use-heat-hho-generate-electricity.html

This is the ongoing thread at Energetic Forum.  There are a total of six threads on Energetic where Power To Be posted some pretty cool stuff.  I have archived files on each of these threads at my Yahoo website and also on Scribd if anyone is interested.  If there is interest, I'll post a link to my site where I've archived all the Power To Be intel and also a Scribd link to all the archived files there.


Quote from: ramset on March 25, 2011, 02:07:22 PM
Slovenia,
Can you post alink to the "Energetic thread"?

Thanks
Chet
PS
It does sound like The "Transducer in a sphere"
Timothy Thrapp/ "WITTS" hot water heater ,may also be figured out here!

ramset

Slovenia
Quote:
If there is interest, I'll post a link to my site where I've archived all the Power To Be intel and also a Scribd link to all the archived files there.

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Thank you
That would be Very Nice!!

Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Slovenia

I was going through some old Powerme notes last night that I hadn't studied that throughly, and came across something interesting.  He said that he used 5 cm Piezo transducers, but that the 2 cm would be fine to use.

I personally think I want to use what he is using myself.  Anyway, I wanted to share this.

Also, Power To Be said in an early post that we only needed to buy the ceramic piezo transducers and we as a team with his help would design our own atomizing chamber which the piezo transducer would be mounted in.  I hope this offer still stands Power To Be.  Thanks for everything.

36 volts pulsed dc
2 x 5 cm piezo runs at 36v pulsed dc taken from genset, average 280 watts power consumption.