Practical Method for Production of Water Fuel with Piezoelectric

[b_rads]

What relation does electricity have, compared to temp.? 
What is temperature/heat? 
How are we using that to our advantage with the crystals?  (I already may have shared that with the "doink" push of the crystals)

And finally -- If all of these do have a relation to one another, then why are we adding Magnesium to the crystal structure?

Romo
I feel like we are very close in our thinking, possibly I have not expressed myself very well.  I would like a better understanding of where you think we differ.
I think the better question would be "What relationship does energy have,-compared to temp?"
If you have not already looked at this, you might find it very interesting.
http://frankgermano.net/svp.htm
I do subscribe to your "doink" principle.
Great pictures, you are to be commended for your openness and sharing, Thanks
This is going to be a fun and interesting journey and I look forward to everyone sharing their results.
Brad S.

[RAD-HHO]

I could not find any on taobao, but I did find some on aliexpress.

http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/386739037-wholesale-3pcs-lot-Mist-Maker-Fogger-20mm-Ceramic-Disc-ceramic-disk-Replacement-bit-free-shipping-wholesalers.html

They are 20mm, but they dont say for DK-3. I dont know if they are the same or not. They are 20mm, but there are other 20mm discs on the http://www.mainlandmart.com/foggers.html site that they state are only for certain other misters.

I sent Mainlandmart an email to get some more specs on the K006 replacement discs.

I received this response from Mainlandmart:

   Hello Rick,

   The frequency for our mist makers is 1.72 MHz.

   Best Regards
   Mico Inc.
   Tel:626-258-2928

   --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Rick wrote:

   From: Rick
   Subject: Item K006 20mm replacement discs
   To: mainlandmart@yahoo.com
   Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 10:36 AM
   What frequency do the K006 replacement discs operate?

   Thanks,

   Rick

[petar113507]

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Allright, so funny story.  I slept last night with my computer on -- I crashed before I posted this, so my bad on the late post.  In an odd turn of events, when I woke up this morning, I poked around a little bit, and found this little bit:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/pssa.2210160149/abstract?systemMessage=Wiley+Online+Library+will+be+disrupted+2nd+Apr+from+10-12+BST+for+monthly+maintenance

It's cool, because this was one of the first articles I looked at this morning, and it seemed to deposit lead crystals in thin films.  Timing, in letting the solution sit, would determine the length the crystal film deposited.

Lead oxide:
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=5093446
Describes lead oxide crystals grown by sodium hydroxide, at high pressure, using "hydrothermal techniques".  So, they're using some kind of "hot water" techniqe to deposit the lead.  This is straight from the summary -- at the very least, this is a way to get information about potential production methods.

Seems to be a similar "wet/liquid" deposit-ing techniqe.

This is the secondary process seems much easier, and I am currently investigating what would be a solution which would make either (lead sulphide/oxide) dissolveable.  I am investigating this, in hopes that you will contribute a little more information where I am missing it about the general guidelines of the procedure.  If not, I understand that you do not wish to disclose information before we are ready to work with it.
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I am only sharing what I know, and my speculations about the upcomming project.
That is just it -- speculations so far.  I hope this informs you, or gets you to think a little bit about this stuff.  I definitely think it is worth it to at least invent the time to consider it as a possibillity.

The tangent: Epitaxial Lead Sulfide crystal Photovoltaic:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=614&prmdo=1&q=epitaxial+lead+sulfide+crystal+photovoltaic&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epitaxy

Epitaxy refers to the method of depositing a monocrystalline film on a monocrystalline substrate. The deposited film is denoted as epitaxial film or epitaxial layer. The term epitaxy comes from the Greek roots epi, meaning "above", and taxis, meaning "in ordered manner". It can be translated "to arrange upon".

Epitaxial films may be grown from gaseous or liquid precursors. Because the substrate acts as a seed crystal, the deposited film takes on a lattice structure and orientation identical to those of the substrate. This is different from other thin-film deposition methods which deposit polycrystalline or amorphous films, even on single-crystal substrates. If a film is deposited on a substrate of the same composition, the process is called homoepitaxy; otherwise it is called heteroepitaxy.

From this, we'd need to lay down very thin layers of the lead sulphide to grow the microcrystals.  I would assume that we would calculate the size of crystals by the timing of the vapor.

Powerme, How do you calculate the exact size of the crystal?  I understand that smaller crystal resonates at a faster frequency -- but I do not know how to calculate what frequency a crystal will resonate at, given its size.  Is this a function of its geometry(crystal shape?), or atomic makeup (matierals used)?  At the very least, where can I find this kind of information?

As a note I know lead sulphide can be cross-searched, near interchange-ably with "galena".  This is probably what tesla might have played with this "back in his day".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galena

Galena is a semiconductor with a small bandgap of about 0.4 eV which found use in early wireless communication systems. For example, it was used as the crystal in crystal radio sets, in which it was used as a point-contact diode to detect the radio signals. The galena crystal was used with a safety pin or similar sharp wire, which was known as a "cat's whisker".

the "small bandgap" is describing a property of lead to "resonate at a wide range of frequencies"

What I find interesting, is that you mention using different chemicals interchangeably to create the same effect. 
I have seen a lot of papers on Zinc oxide, and Zinc sulphide -- effectively in thin crystal layers, which are also photoelectric.  I note this, because we are using similar crystals for pizeo-electrics.  What properties of the

"Natural lead = galena"
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1951AuSRA...4..569L

This page is also very interesting.  It gave me a little more information about "the cat's whisker".  Also, it reviews thermo-electric efffect (think about the wavelength -- Infa-red).

"This is not taught in school" -- I asked some professors, and they actually did not help me with even finding useful tangents, or information about this stuff.  Whatever it is -- books, and internet have been my two sources so far in investigating what I could.

A treatise on chemistry tells a little bit about the preperation of Lead oxide and Lead sulphate -- neither appear to be in crystaline form, and were described to be a byproduct/waste.  Otherwise, some different ways to manapulate the lead industrially.
Lead oxide (pg 284), grew in crystaline form on the positive anode due to a galvanic current. 
I am not sure if this is actually "growing" a crystal, or if it is electroplating the lead form in the solution.

"this knowledge is not new nor exotic, Photovoltaic effect of Lead Sulfide was first disclosed in 1904"

When I look at how we would produce lead oxide, or sulphide "today" --
http://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/2010/CC/b926176a

Lead sulphide:
http://iopscience.iop.org/0022-3727/38/12/023
Basically is teling us the same thing -- lead sulphide is photo-voltaic.

This patent was one of the most informative:
http://www.google.com/patents?hl=en&lr=&vid=USPAT3716424&id=EqU4AAAAEBAJ&oi=fnd&dq=lead+sulphide+photovoltaic&printsec=abstract#v=onepage&q&f=false

In a nutshell -- I've posted the most useful links I've found -- overall, from what I have gleaned from all these processes -- in order to finely control the growth of the crystals -- I think I'd have to control the ammount of vapor, to control the size of the crystaline film over the stuff I was growing it on.

This would be the option with a bunch of fancy equipment -- and I've got a hunch there is an easier way.

This post is winding down, and Hence I have my questions about the process.  We need lead, sulphur, and some way to deposit it.  If I could not purchase sulphur -- it is present in the air, or the seawater -- I could extract it myself if I had to.

I noted this about nitrogen/ammonia -- if I could not, for whatever reasons, get my hands on the stuff -- I might be able extract nitrogen from the air with a semi-permiable membrane, and store it with a small air compressor, and make ammonium myself.

I have recenly begun to look at things around me, for all of the potential uses they could have -- or walk through a junkyard and look at all the golden peices I can find for various projects.  It is effectively, looking for the ways in which the objects/parts are useful to me.

I don't have a vacuum chamber, or the vapor-depositive facillities available but could investigate this, if you were to say what we will need.  I am looking to work now, for it to pay off later.  Thank you for your help powerme.

==Romo

Thoughts anyone?  Any ideas, aside from the two procedure types?  How could you be making these things yourself?

Hope this gets the wheels turning in the right direction.

[Slovenia]

I'm working on some new files for everyone. The pdf file compiled from all the
Power1 entries on OU got pretty big and cumbersome to be a useful document
anymore. It's still readable, but it's so big that it's hard to find the
master's stuff. There's just to much interference in there, so I decided to
make an easier version for myself and I will share it with everyone when it's
done. The new version will be comprised of all the threads dealing with Power1
information and broken into three distinct documents. The first will be a
compilation of all of Power 1's posts dealing with his device. The second will
deal with all Power1's post dealing with higher self and learning. The third,
will be a compilation of all of Romo's posts dealing with the Power1 device.
Romo is a very enthusiastic player and has added a lot of information that is
very interesting and useful to this project. Anyway, I just wanted to give you
a heads up. I'm still here but working on other things including this Power1
project.

[superman9976]

Hey Guys,

I ordered a CDI for my car with E3 plugs and eventually will make the krupa plugs.  I want to set that up and put just fogger transducers in a tank and pipe the fog by the exhaust to make steam and inject that into the motor to burn.
I did a bench experiment with plasma ignition awhile back.  Where I took a dirt devil steam cleaner and sprayed it over a modified spark plug.  The vapor would actually flare up and burn blue and orange in color.  The spark was so intense I eyes felt flash burned after word.  I am thinking I will explore this route and let you guys know.  Romo I am thinking you will continue working with different frequencies especially the lower ones which are said to separate water more efficiently and not damage crystals as quickly.  So I will have this system ready in case there is something you think of that you would like to test out.  I have heard just this system is 30 to 40% gains in mileage.  I need at least a good starting point way to save money for now and keep improving from there.  Thanks Solvenia for all your time in documenting!  Thank you power to be for your generosity.  I look forward to working with everyone here on this project and am still here even though I dont post all that often.

Chris