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Joerg Raimund Hempel and his Ionic Magnetic Power IMP CAP Charging

Started by hartiberlin, March 03, 2011, 08:08:48 PM

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gauschor

He explained that there is no secret hidden battery within the 1 Farad capacitor (he was also mentioning an anektode in which he let his invention test other physicians and let them take apart the capacitor completely. There was nothing in it but the electrolyte and the aluminium foils).
Call me a believer but I think he is correct with that and the secret lies not in the capacitor or in the lead acid battery but instead only in the mysterious construction within the silver foil - which he hasn't disclosed fully yet.
We only "know" that he uses permanent magnets, prepared foils and a coil to make it work, but we don't know actually how he has arranged the parts. I admit I haven't read his patents yet. However from experience mostly  people do not disclose a very essential detail making their invention  actually work.
He claims that not current itself is transported, but the information of charge separation. This information is transported much faster than the actual flux of current.
He also explained that if he puts in an ampere metere when charging up the electrolyte capacitor it would take very long and abandoning the effect. Therefore he can't really put that device into the circuit. Since this could be a new type of current transport this statement can be valid. He also said that he has observed this quick charging effect only on electrolyte capacitors and accumulators.

I agree though we need more details. Hopefully he will disclose them, as he has already filed different patents.

neptune

@guaschor. Please read previous posts . The Li-ion cells inside the silver foil are COMPLETELY DISCHARGED ,or the patents says can optionally be charged .@ Wattsup . 10 out of ten for observational skills . However if he has to fake it , HOW and WHY is he applying for an expensive Patent . Even Mylow , king of fraudsters did not apply for a patent .

gauschor

@neptune: there is no proof that the 2 accumulators within the silver foil are empty, regardless what Stefan said in the first page. For your information I am also a german native speaker and he (the inventor) does NOT claim that anywhere in the video! He only claims that the flat accus are empty. Nothing more and nothing less.

In my understanding the flat empty lead acid batteries act somehow as a buffer. However the 2 small source batteries in the foil need to be charged to provide some power (or in that case to provide the "information").

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I find the US patent very interesting  .. US2010159293A1.pdf

Has anyone noticed Claim 28 ….

Here he is talking about the ability of the ion cell (covered in magnets), to charge a galvanic cell  … ie lead accumulator, nickel cadmium, nickel metal hydride accumulator etc etc  (see Claim 30)  …

Quote“28. The device according to claim 27, further comprising that the electrical energy released to the galvanic cell from the ion cell positioned in a magnetic field during a charging time t1 is less than the energy withdrawable during the discharge cycle t2 of the galvanic cell.”

Unfortunately the patent doesn’t include a timing diagram to show the relationship between t1 and t2  …  but it still sounds like a pretty bold statement to me.

Either t1 is much shorter than t2 and therefore the accumulator is going to go flat pretty quick  ...   and what is the point of using the system  ...  or this does actually allow more energy to be drawn from the battery than is supplied by the ion cell to keep it going.    :)


wattsup

First of all I do not want to create unnecessary commotions. You have to understand that this is exactly the problem as you mentioned about the M guy (I will never say his name again) that I know to well. We have seen this before. It will not be the first time someone patents something that may not work. Then making a good video is just to then show it does work and this video now gives your patent some serious meat to bite on. So the patent gives you rights and the video gives your patent rights some value.

Also, note that just before he shorts the battery, the voltage on the battery read 23.210 vdc. Then he shorted the battery showing 0.1545 vdc. Then when he removed the short the battery read 21.110 volts. This is a normal battery depletion but what bugs me is that he wants you to think there is .1545 vdc in the black boxes. This attacks his own credibility right away.

Then we have the position of the on/off switch. It is not a momentary switch that you press for on and when released it goes off. There was no volt meter after the switch to show it is even activating anything so the switch could be always open and never even on the circuit. You see, when he charged the 1 farad capacitor for the second time, his hand went to the switch but he pulled it back because he knew it was already on. Big mistake again. If that switch was always on and the circuit through the magbat was always connected, then why did the magbat side not heat up after all that time being on. So the switch is maybe a fake also.

Then there is the patent itself that calls for a magbat in parallel with a load capacitor, in parallel with a load. But his demo shows a magbat in parallel with a battery in parallel with a hand switched load capacitor. This is not the same thing at all.

The last point is when the cameraman looks under the glass table, it is so obvious there is nothing under the table. Anyone with eyes could understand this. But then why did the inventor put his hand under the table and place it right under the 1 Farad capacitor?

I know, it could all be consequential. But in my experience, nothing is consequential. Everything has a reason. All our actions have reasons. My own look at this stems from my high desire and hope for this to be real, mixed with my learned reality that so many are not and just want to trick us.

Again, I am not saying this is trickery. I am just saying that before someone jumps in the air yelling "free energy" or spend months on this, we better do more due diligence.

But the last last thing that bugs me is this. The inventor has a patent. With the patent, this protects him against others stealing it from him. So why all the secrecy about the magbat? What do you have to hide and why hide it when you have it patented?

wattsup