The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[Magluvin]

WindsorFarmer,  Welcom to OU forum!  I think either one may give you some idea of power in and power out but they can be fooled somewhat and as I believe was discussed here the better proof of OU at least IMO would be to run a small inverter from a battery in which case you might even be able to loop the setup with a battery charger.  But even if you don't do that you can calculate your DC volts and amps in and get a fairly good idea of what kind of COP you have from what load you are able to run from the output.  In other words if you are only using 3 amps at 12 volts (36 watts)  and you can light up three 60 watt light bulbs to full brightness (I suggest a light meter to verify) then you've got a winner as that would easily be 5 to 1 COP not even taking into consideration losses in the inverter.  But whatever way you choose will be helpful in evaluating this device.  The more build the more we can learn about it.  Good luck!

One thing with trying an inverter at first is, we need to know the impedance at 60hz of the primary. This will determine the amount of idle power in the primary.  Some here like sky will need to experiment first, as his way is not as prescribed from the onset, and probably most are looking to eliminate the toaster. lol  =]

So if what you build is different in any way from Gabriels, testing should be done at low power to be sure of what the idle, no load current in the primary will be. Just to be careful and try not to suffer any losses, like a $20 inverter, maybe 2 of them, who knows.  This can be discouraging.

And Skys setup may work better at other freq, probably higher. Just a guess.

Mags

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi folks, hi e2matrix, I have what I think I need.
I have a 750 watt inverter I picked up a few years back at target. The one at this link. http://www.audioallies.com/GetItem.asp?Item=VEC1043

I thought first to use the 110vac output from the inverter and run it through a smaller transformer I have from I think was in a battery charger and use the small transformer in step down for around 12 volts to the gabriel primary coil.
Maybe this smaller transformer will help smooth out the modified sine wave also.
Will use a 1 ohm resistor and/or my dmm to test 12 volt inverter amp draw.
peace love light
Tyson

[energia9]

hi people im new to this thread.

we have to clarify a few things here:

who have done the experiment yet?
sometimes you can not measure true power from the outcoming side for whatever reason.

please make a diode bridge and place a capacitor on the outcoming side, then measure power.

[Potemkyn]

That toaster is an interesting critter, providing impedence.  I like the idea of using a dimmer switch, but since it has the possibility of changing the wave form - even if it's just a square wave - that should not be done quite yet.

I have worked with Java, but that was over ten years ago.  It would take a little bit to get spun up on making a control circuit for this device, which may provide some really good information about what is happening on the inside as well as some controls.

[twinbeard]

If you are considering writing a software control for this device, please consider using a portable language as opposed to a proprietary one.  The last thing we need is a free energy device with a non-free control app.

Cheers,
Twinberd

That toaster is an interesting critter, providing impedence.  I like the idea of using a dimmer switch, but since it has the possibility of changing the wave form - even if it's just a square wave - that should not be done quite yet.

I've worked in electronics, but it's been a few years since I really delved in.  I worked on air conditioning systems for three and a half years, then was able to work on Air Traffic Radar systems for almost ten years.  High voltage, tube, IC, whatever.  If it was or around the radar or the display systems, we worked on it.  I was lucky enough to be there when they still worked down tothe component level.

I’m currently an application developer.  Most of my code is in ActionScript 2.0 and 3.0, but I also use Visual Basic, C#, SQL, and Javascript.  I have worked with Java, but that was over ten years ago. 

It would take a little bit to get spun up on making a control circuit for this device, which may provide some really good information about what is happening on the inside as well as some controls.