The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[Mavendex]

Nice that you actually tested this. Sometimes wacky ideas work, sometimes they work differently than expected, most of the times they don't work at all. But even failure is usefull because you can learn why it failed and gain more understanding. Better not to rely on text books alone, your own imagination and intuition may provide better results. But I think you know this already seeing what you have come up with so far.

By disappointment I meant you would first unwound your primary winding, remove steel core, put on the tape, wind primary again and it does not work, hmm, maybe more layers ?  Trying again with more tape and eventually realize 'oh crap this is shit' and return to original design. Hours of work would have been wasted.

Now thinking again it is good tape did not work, it is a lot easier just to put a shell than do third toroidal winding using tape. But still wondering would tape using nanoperm material be any different than iron wire that did not work. Then again, you already have a working concept so why change it drastically.

Have you tried what happens if you increase the number of turns in primary and secondary, lets say to two layers ? If you use bifilar windings, has it any notable difference in behaviour ? You must have been tried lots of different variations and you have mentioned about them. This is good so anyone doing replication learns what does work and what does not giving room for more ideas. As you open sourced this I believe there could be more progress being made if all having this setup availeble for testing would team up virtually. One document that would describe what changes has been tried, what effects it had, some experimental results and so on. But where to store it so that it is easy to find ?

The first version put 450 watts out, what kind of output level have you reached with the new shell ? I recall you saying you got 12 watts out of 1 but what is that as total output power, 600 watts ?

with powerfactor involved you can make the output pretty ridicules numbers,
so far the mix I have going right now is 5.2 ohms of wire on the inside cause all the wire gets all of the flux plus the nanoperm kicks in at around 15 amps, the 15 amps can probably be made less with a core that is closer to the nanoperm itself but then you lose turns, or better materials the functionality of it is pretty interesting and the newer better shell will be most fantastic.

but with this shell you can get the output really high, although you would need around 378 - 400 turns on the outside this changes the powerfactor and what not to around .25 and that all depends on what load you have on it. If its set as a distribution transformer hehe wow pf would be in the .07 range really low, geometry really really helps In my opinion, I have a couple of different winding strategies that help move the field around better, but thats just my opinion.
but at this point if you drop like 2000+ turns on the secondary and go about 400 turns on the primary you will see +output conventionally wound, if you use a different winding strat. you can make much more.

400 turns on the primary and a variac that goes to about 20 amps will get you a pf of .25 once you start adding more voltage than amps the pf will start to rise again, but Im confident the reaction is just starting at 15 amps the 9 gauge wire can handle quite a bit so people with 30 - 40 amp variacs would get outputs that would probably melt the 16 gauge on the inside.

my variac goes to 130volts so 130x20x.25 = 650 input which isn't bad 130x20x.07 = 182 which is better and unloaded like a distribution transformer.

Considering your voltages will spike once your amp pool is filled on the secondary once that happens the chain reaction gets stronger and stronger the more amps you input and your pf should decrease as well untill your ethier at 0 or stop putting in amps.

see haveing less layers in the innercore doesn't really help much cause it will always get the same amount of flux, so more layers and it will absorb all of that, as well this means your voltages can get in the killavolt realm once your amp pool is filled, so lets say you just fill a amp pool of 2 amps, well now the volts will spike according to how much amperage/voltage you put in and layers of wire you have on the secondary, if you have enough turns then your output will just multiply and multiply and multiply. you will always keep those 2 amps and that voltage should get pretty darn silly. 600volts out at 2 amps is around 1200 watts I think right for the low low price of 650 and in reality once you get voltage high enough your output will truly be more than your input. no powerfactor needed but ill take it if your gonna give it out.

Volts input play a part but its very minor. Its all about the amps and how much flux you can deliver to the unit, flux is a two lane street and thats where geometry comes in to play, by winding a coil in a fashion that is (how should we say) less conventional, you can actually boost your flux thru the secondary.

So the answer to your question, how much power output can I get out of the unit? the limits of the wire! how much have I gotten out of a particular unit more than 650 watts and im not telling hehe.

No worries that is why I decided to open source plus I still have a whole 6 months to build a nonprofit and all that jazz, I have another better prototype here at the home stead, and building a couple more smaller guys to see if we can make some stuff that will go in a computer or something. As well I await the almighty permalloy shell!

Not only that btw you don't have to stick to 16 awg for innerwinding I use it cause it makes me feel like a brute when I get it all wound up. like I said all the flux gets delivered to the innercore your not loseing anything, which means you could make 1 or 2 KV or more with smaller wire

The device is designed for distribution and a house hold input power which when your talking 1000's of watts out + the electric company should be pretty happy.

Its not so tough if you want to close loop it Im sure we can do that as well just for peas and carrots.

So ya you can consider the laws of thermodynamics, officially popped, lenz's law violated, and the world will be saved energy crisis officially over and your welcome cause we can put these puppy's in cars as is heheh, not to mention the permalloy shell that I will get soon.

If people would actually stop being greedy and power hungry, lieing and attempting to steal things cause they think they can (and they are dead wrong about that, can't spend money when your locked in a 6x6 room.)

I would think the human race would be in pretty good shape at this point. whats really nice tho is even tho people have tried to burn me on this and will probably continue to do so. The fact of the matter is this is just one of my tricks next we break gravity.

Mav




Dave
Mavendex

[importfanatik]

Hi Dave/Mav,

I realize you have alot on your plate so I will keep this short.
I have been following this thread since the very day your pictures were posted on peswiki, and even attempted a cheap replication of my own. Even though my replication failed (I didnt have a nanoperm core), I still find this theory to be the most promising and plausible on the internet.

However, as hopeful as I am that your claims are true (violating lenz law and saving the world), historically, claims of these types always fall apart when they attempt to go closed loop.

I am like many others who want to see change, but cant afford to replicate every idea or theory on the internet that looks promising, only to find out later the claims were either a fraud or the result of a measurement error.  For that reason, like many others, I focus on the ones that show reasonable proof of closed loop operation.

So,... Im asking,. begging even, bring out your peas and carrots.
Try to go closed loop and post your findings so that those with limited funding will have the confidence to replicate and start the chain reaction that will change the world.

[Mavendex]

Hi Dave/Mav,

I realize you have alot on your plate so I will keep this short.
I have been following this thread since the very day your pictures were posted on peswiki, and even attempted a cheap replication of my own. Even though my replication failed (I didnt have a nanoperm core), I still find this theory to be the most promising and plausible on the internet.

However, as hopeful as I am that your claims are true (violating lenz law and saving the world), historically, claims of these types always fall apart when they attempt to go closed loop.

I am like many others who want to see change, but cant afford to replicate every idea or theory on the internet that looks promising, only to find out later the claims were either a fraud or the result of a measurement error.  For that reason, like many others, I focus on the ones that show reasonable proof of closed loop operation.

So,... Im asking,. begging even, bring out your peas and carrots.
Try to go closed loop and post your findings so that those with limited funding will have the confidence to replicate and start the chain reaction that will change the world.

Roger

[broli]

Btw there's also that thing called the overunity prize on this forum:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2157.0

Not to make you money hungry or anything but if you can make a simple, even a small transformer that lights a small light bulb indefinitely and send it in 3 fold, you COULD have a little boost in your research funding.

[Mavendex]

Btw there's also that thing called the overunity prize on this forum:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2157.0

Not to make you money hungry or anything but if you can make a simple, even a small transformer that lights a small light bulb indefinitely and send it in 3 fold, you COULD have a little boost in your research funding.

neat didn't know about the prize money, but its not really a issue money comes and goes, time is the ultimate resource.