The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[matthewklinko]

Hi Hope

On the M417 there is approx 2000 winds of 16AWG (approx 1.3mm)
16 awg 4.0156 Kohms per 1000 feet (.00473 per ft) 7.8177 pounds (3.5kg) = 1000ft

I worked out roughly 116mm's per turn

So 116 * 2000 = 232000 mm's
convert to inches
232000 /25.4 = 9133 inches
Convert to feet
9133 /12 = 761 feet

So resistance is .00473 per foot * 761 = 3.6 ohms

So around 3.5 kg of wire.

I ordered 4kg and still got some left over and ended up with 3.5 ohms. So pretty close.



Outer core is 9AWG (approx 3mm)

9AWG we will need about 350 feet, which works out a massive 6kg if my calculations are correct:

9AWG = 39.630 lbs = 1000ft, so 0.03963 lb per foot
1lb = 0.45359237kg
so 350ft *  0.03963 =13.87 lbs
13.87lbs = 6.3 kg

Again I ordered 4kg and plan to wind all of it and see what we end up with.

Did not weigh the nanoperm before winding but I am sure the weight is probably on the spec sheet somewhere.

Cheers

Sean.

Hello Any updates to your work?

[Hope]

How great!   Thank you for this update,  I have missed this response from Clanzer (I have total respect for this dedicated man).   Are there any reports as to results? 

So now I will re-order my nano 4 channel,  something happened to my last order I guess.  Linda can't find it, and Visa says it's not charged.  So reorder time.  BTY Fry's electronics are selling the "Kill a Watt" wattage meters at around $20 bucks (USAD).  Seeed Electronics are selling the DSO 203 at $199 WITH 4 probes (2 r X1) and 2 r X10) (the correct ones for these smartphone sized test units that do a lot of extra's)  Goldmine electronics are selling the nano perm sheets if any need um.   

[Mavendex]

Please write this up as far as specs, build instructions and parts list of at least one working model.  Include the principles as found.  I have done technical writing for a major manufacture of electronics/mechanical equipment and would help if you wish.  We can place this document in the downloads area so as to make it easy to get it to members who will build theirs.  Thank you.

Is this your wish? 

Is this for us all? 


Richard

And have not and did not see any results as you mentioned.  Only encouraged a person who was unsuccessful at finding COP > 1 using your suggested layout and windings.

Yup this you hope asking for build specifics, so yes you commented on it. and you also congratulated him.

So would you like to try that again?

[matthewklinko]

Hello All

Please ignore the results I posted before as my oscilloscope was setup wrong, and the trigger levels where different for each channel.

I corrected this issue, and there is no delay in voltage between the primary and secondary.
The power factor for my device is 1.
I have got got weird results on voltages, as you increase primary turns secondary no load voltage goes up.

Primary turns: 200
Secondary turns: 2000
Input voltage: 5V
Output voltage: 50V

Primary turns: 400
Secondary turns: 2000
Input voltage: 2V
Output voltage: 223V

Mav: Is there a particular winding direction we have to wind to get this effect?
Also have you measured the inductance of your primary and secondary coils?

thanks
Matt

[Mavendex]

Hello All

Please ignore the results I posted before as my oscilloscope was setup wrong, and the trigger levels where different for each channel.

I corrected this issue, and there is no delay in voltage between the primary and secondary.
The power factor for my device is 1.
I have got got weird results on voltages, as you increase primary turns secondary no load voltage goes up.

Primary turns: 200
Secondary turns: 2000
Input voltage: 5V
Output voltage: 50V

Primary turns: 400
Secondary turns: 2000
Input voltage: 2V
Output voltage: 223V

Mav: Is there a particular winding direction we have to wind to get this effect?
Also have you measured the inductance of your primary and secondary coils?

thanks
Matt

Matt

I do everything counterclockwise. your shell must be rather thin for a PF of 1 or really close to the innercore, I can get pf down to .07 without much of a problem so don't know what to tell ya. As well Im useing a variac to control my input now days and a amplifier may not be the input of choice for these experiments.