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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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teslaalset

@Mavendex,

Did you ever measure the VAR values consumed by your prototype?
Looking to the theoretical model, it consumes a lot of VAR.
Your KillaWatt meter should have an option to measure VAR, I guess?

TheCell

The 'Kill-O-Watt' Meter for measuring active power works fine for measuring the input power. (and nothing else is recommended here)
For measuring output power one should use a bridge rectifier , through a large cap, for measuring dc values at the output by simply multiplying.

These 'Kill-O-Watt' Meter alike devices measure  true rms of any kind of waveform . There are a lot of different devices in a household resulting in different kind of waveforms for the current.
1) A inductance results in a sinewave for I , which lack after the voltage.
2) Switched power supplies : the form of the current depends on the load , is never a sinewave
3) Power consumed by a load regulated through a dimmer...
(There is surely no constant value describing the ratio of Umax an Urms there)
If this meters where not that versatile a electronic troll like a normal consumer would not get any correct watts consuming value.

For measuring the output power, I am not sure, if the meter needs to be plugged into a wall socket for the measurement electronic must be supplied with the right input voltage to measure correctly.

Mavendex

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Mavendex/2011-03-23_18-22-32_480_Kearney.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Mavendex/2011-03-23_18-22-04_636_Kearney.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Mavendex/2011-03-23_18-21-49_526_Kearney.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Mavendex/2011-03-23_18-12-50_299_Kearney.jpg


Since I can't answer a bunch of these questions while I wait for my part to show up Im going ahead with the rebuild with more wire and the modified shell I started with. The Shell had another inch taken out of the center to allow for more room of the wire, you can see that there is a huge gap in the center and I probably have a fingers width (skinny finger) of space from the top of the wrapped nanoperm and where the top of the shell is on the inside.

epoxy has been drying all night should be ready for some wire this evening.

the links are to the pics on photobucket

Mav

wayne49s

I looked into the "kill-a-watt" meters awhile ago because some posters mentioned they measured true power and found some that could display PF and some did not show that possibility. So I believe the ones that can do that would measure true power. Here's a link to one model (not expensive) that did that: http://www.weemscreeksolutions.com/Resources/KillAWatt-P440_Instructions.pdf

Mav: Do you know if your meter has that capability? Otherwise it may not measure true power.

/Wayne

Mavendex