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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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SkyWatcher123

Hi folks, I read the tesla patent #us433702 that might be similar to the gabriel device. Tesla says in his transformer, the outer primary shell creates a phase lag or time lag between the primary coil and secondary coil.
Kind of reminds of Thanes rotating generators where at certain speed a lag occurs, causing a repulsive kick to his moving magnets instead of a slow down.
This might explain why a load is not reflected back to the primary in gabriels device. Maybe the higher permeability inner toroid only helps to lengthen this phase or time lag between primary and secondary coil.

Also Tesla points out how his primary ferromagnetic shell will only transfer induction to secondary, if primary shell is saturated enough.
I think this sheds more light on what may be happening.
Even in Thanes design, it could very well be that the larger more permeable secondary transformer legs, only help to create a greater phase, time lag so that the loaded secondary coils do not reflect back to primary coil.
Anyway, here is my finished small gabriel device. I placed two layers of the 24 gauge for the primary coil.
peace love light
Tyson :)

Magluvin

Quote from: SkyWatcher123 on March 29, 2011, 08:23:25 PM



Also Tesla points out how his primary ferromagnetic shell will only transfer induction to secondary, if primary shell is saturated enough.
I think this sheds more light on what may be happening.

Tyson :)

Hmm, I wonder if the On and Off action of the primary shield/core, from under saturation, to over saturation shows up on the secondary. A kind of pulsed humps, + and - .   I suppose if we were to dose the primary core with a magnet, we might get rectified humps. =]   



Mags

WindsorFarmer

Howdy;

Been following this thread since Friday, read through it twice.  I'm interested in replicating also, once I have a better understanding of this.  I see where the steel rolled toroids can be ordered, and I've found 1000' of 16 gauge wire and speaker wire for around $100, and that's good for about 10 amps.  Then there's the nanoperm.

I see there are two suggestions for measuring current by FatBird, would one of each of those be a good choice (I used to have a clamp on ages ago).

Thanks y'all.

Windsor (Mike)

e2matrix

WindsorFarmer,  Welcom to OU forum!  I think either one may give you some idea of power in and power out but they can be fooled somewhat and as I believe was discussed here the better proof of OU at least IMO would be to run a small inverter from a battery in which case you might even be able to loop the setup with a battery charger.  But even if you don't do that you can calculate your DC volts and amps in and get a fairly good idea of what kind of COP you have from what load you are able to run from the output.  In other words if you are only using 3 amps at 12 volts (36 watts)  and you can light up three 60 watt light bulbs to full brightness (I suggest a light meter to verify) then you've got a winner as that would easily be 5 to 1 COP not even taking into consideration losses in the inverter.  But whatever way you choose will be helpful in evaluating this device.  The more build the more we can learn about it.  Good luck!

e2matrix

Skywatcher - interesting setup and hoping you have success as that would be easier / cheaper :D    Do you have everything else needed for a test run?  I'm trying to keep my eyes open for some Metglas or similar at a good price.