The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[JouleSeeker]

The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Operation: Thane Heins effect based device.
Replication: None yet.
Closed-loop: Not attempted, can fry the windings without input current control circuitry.  (i.e. inverter, battery charger , and battery)
Independent Verification:  The Heins' effect has been independently verified, but Klingelhoefer's implementation has not.

Input: 120VAC at 0.5Amp
Output: 120VAC at 4Amp


You can read my comments to this in the Thane Heins thread here
Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7833.msg278868#new

I will be attempting replication and am in contact with David Klingelhoefer. Exciting stuff.

Let's hope it's not a measurement error, but I have high hopes.

Cheers,
Feynman

Having read much, but not all, of this thread -- it appears that "high hopes" are still there. 

  Can someone help with a few questions --

1.  What are the FUNDAMENTAL CRITICAL parts of this approach? 
   Nested toroids with magnetic shielding?

2.  Are bifilar-windings important, or not?

3.  Has anyone completed, after these months, a replication that shows OU (or not)?  who? what detailed results are presented?

Thanks so much.  I hope this approach succeeds!

[Mavendex]

post 454 has a pdf of in and out with ou properties that is independent from myself, no bifilar windings are not necessary, larger gauge wire on the outer shell to allow amps to flow is a key factor, the permeability difference is necessary to keep the magnetic fields separated, cold rolled steel is probably not the best material to use for the outer shell, Iron will not work, Im going for a permalloy shell for the higher perm, it will still have a big difference between inner and outer core permeability, at the same time will be much easier to charge.

[SchubertReijiMaigo]

cold rolled steel is probably not the best material to use for the outer shell, Iron will not work, Im going for a permalloy shell for the higher perm, it will still have a big difference between inner and outer core permeability, at the same time will be much easier to charge.

I'am a little bit confused now , since we need differential permeability, if you use permalloy for outer and nanoperm for inner where is the permeability difference now ? My belief is no matter the kind of metal for outer it's permeability is one or nearly one since it's obviously completely saturated (the flux exit the outer and magnetize the inner with a phase delay), so don't you see a paradox here ? And for inner when you said high amp, we have not plenty solution: 1) must remove turns for saturating slightly the inner and draw more reactive current or 2) use a low permeability inner core (which is in contradiction with the original device) !!!   
If you don't believe me look at the BH curve and the permeability curve (the S point, the metal is fully saturated permeability droop to one...) which is interdependent...

[Mavendex]

I'am a little bit confused now , since we need differential permeability, if you use permalloy for outer and nanoperm for inner where is the permeability difference now ? My belief is no matter the kind of metal for outer it's permeability is one or nearly one since it's obviously completely saturated (the flux exit the outer and magnetize the inner with a phase delay), so don't you see a paradox here ? And for inner when you said high amp, we have not plenty solution: 1) must remove turns for saturating slightly the inner and draw more reactive current or 2) use a low permeability inner core (which is in contradiction with the original device) !!!   
If you don't believe me look at the BH curve and the permeability curve (the S point, the metal is fully saturated permeability droop to one...) which is interdependent...

Since Im the only one trying it I don't think you should worry that much

and consequently, you are free to do as you wish, im not gonna sit here and debate what is right and wrong considering electromagnetic's is not something humans fully understand, its worth trying other things to see if it gets better or worse.

[SchubertReijiMaigo]

OK well received, I will test my own replication, but not this time because I will go vacation for one month now... I agree EM is weird, some legend tell even that original maxwell quaternion equation include FE, gravity control and time warp with EM...