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Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments - A False Enigma

Started by poynt99, April 05, 2011, 10:37:54 PM

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Magluvin

Quote from: poynt99 on April 05, 2011, 11:34:17 PM
I do not see any gain. Gain in what exactly? Please be specific.

.99

Well, if we agree that 10uf at 10v has the same energy as a 20uf at 5v, then 20uf at 700v is?  ;)

mags

poynt99

After a period of 5Ï,, (5*tau), each capacitor will be discharged to about 1% of its initial voltage.

So after 5ms, the 10uF will be at about 0.1V, and the 20uF will be at about 0.05V.

.99
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poynt99

Quote from: Magluvin on April 05, 2011, 11:48:34 PM
Well, if we agree that 10uf at 10v has the same energy as a 20uf at 5v, then 20uf at 700v is?  ;)

mags

That did not answer my question. You asked another question. Here it is again:

QuoteGain in what exactly? Please be specific.

.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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Magluvin

Hmm  maybe im not the best at explaining what I mean.  hmm


Let me ask you this, if we used a 10000uf cap at 100v as a source that we had charged and disconnected the charger.

So at the input of our circuit we have this cap 10000uf 100v as the only input to our circuit, from start to finish. Get it? 

Would you agree that if when we run my circuit, using this cap as the source, and when all is said and done, we end up with a cap that is 10000uf at 130v, would I have a gain?

I have found that it is most peoples goal is to replace the battery with a cap, mostly to relieve any doubts about batteries, and hey, chuck the battery if not needed. ;]

And when we know that a cap at a particular voltage contains a for certain, amount of energy, an amount we can rely on each time.

So I am presenting a circuit that can do just that.

If the 4th stage gives me 2000+volts, we have a self runner with 100% output to boot. Would this not interest you?

If we were to forget the caps, or the circuit, if we get out 2 times what we put in, is that not a good thing?  Lets say my capacitor ideas and theories just plain suck, but I get out more than in, would that interest you? Would ya push me aside and take over the project(if real in your mind ;]) and not think that I may be of value still?

I didnt come up with this by accident. I studied. I absorbed. I did it.

Im an odd thinker. Im weird, just like everyone else. Im a kook.  lol

But the better question you should be asking is how am I doing it.
its all on the thread next door. 5 pages of happiness and sadness. Really. But we got it. Got it in 2 weeks.

While your  wanting to compete for king capacitance here, we gunna be ou'ing next door this week.

Join us. I know you have a good mind. Just try to see if you can make sense of it. I really dont want any arguements and fuss. I had seen what some of the guys at our were crackin about me.
They dont even know. But maybe you will. Im sharing, and Its all original to me. And it works.

It seems strange that we gain while voltages go down in each stage, but as I have shown you, im not just spliting the one cap into 2 equal halves, we are above average each time 700v vs 500v, and collecting interest compound. Once all is said and done, we have an 80uf cap at 350v, from a 10u at 1000v.  And I can make that 80uf cap produce a 10uf cap at 1320v in the end game circuit. Still in design. Just switches.
With the 4th stage we should be at 10uf 2000v, then we dump half of that back into the believe circuit and we get as much for free.

It sounds like fantasy. Well put on your 3d goggles and see.
you will forget this thread quickly. ;]
mags






poynt99

I'm pretty sure I understand what you are saying mags, and you are doing a good job explaining yourself. I also am not the best at understanding what folks write. But that aside...

I must slightly correct myself from before; I do see a gain by using your circuit, but it is not the type of gain I think you are assuming you have.

I would still appreciate an answer to my simple question though if you wouldn't mind (in ten words or less):

Gain in what exactly? Please be specific.

.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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Towards Realizing the TPU V1.4: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=217
Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209