Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[mrwayne]

The only 2 things that are different is the air volume to have the same lift force !

So in the Travis effect case you need less energy to pump the air under the bucket from below.

As this works somehow like a see-saw the lift must be switchable on and off...


Hello Stefan,
We do not move air in our system, just water through the bellows.
The air valves in the cabinet are for the original set up - they are disconnected and do not ever run again.
You won't need to reverse engineer - we are designing the agreements in such a manner that it makes it a no brianer to work with us.
This is good for the world.
We have very good additional third party representatives lined up my Mark Dansie, Mike Raymond and some I can not name yet under "CDA", they are respected professionals.
Thanks for your web site, since I can not disclose the Inventive portion of the ZED machine, I see that I will just fall under continued Character attack.
I have been advised by some of those professionals to stop responding.
My website will still be available, and you are welcome to contact me in the future.
Wayne Travis

[vince]

Here is my take on the Z.E.P. based on the very first post by mrwayne and pictures from his website.

  I believe there are three cylinders that are clustered together in the belows. Each of the cyl. has an intermediate piston or diaphram that traps air in the uppermost chamber. the lower portion of each cylinder has a feed opening of some sort to supply water to it with appropriate valving.  the cylinders get smaller as they stack on each other. Only a small amount of water injection is needed to cause the intermediate pistons to rise and the travis effect will cause each of  outer cylinders to rise a limited amount with a force that is proportional to the surface area that the air chamber is acting upon. As each cylinder reaches its limit the next one above it is fed with water and so on until all three have reached their limit. That limit would be full extension of the belows. The belows are  filled with water from the each of the main tanks which are pressurized and maintain head pressure on the system. Because the travis effect acts thru a very short distance the total stroke is relatively short while the force is proportional to the surface area of each piston. The advantage of his system is that you do not need to inject a large amount of air to achieve the bouancy force but rather a small amount of water to cause the trapped air pocket to do the same work via the travis effect as the the conventional way of using the bouancy.

I'm guessing that a cylinder is attached to both sides of the pendulum arm and as it swings it creates a pressure in each cyl. which is fed to either a hydraulic accumulater or an apropriate sized hydraulic motor. The narrator states the end result in the video. That why that hydraulic motor you see turning in the video is turning slowly and at a varied speed.

Very clever indeed!


I'm trying to post a jpeg diagram with this  but for some reason I cannot get it to work.

Vince

[MileHigh]

Stefan:

Different air volumes have the same lifting force with one major difference.  The smaller air volume can not sustain the same amount of force x displacement as compared to the larger air volume.

Wayne:

I'm not attacking your character and I wish that you would stop saying that.  You have no substance to back up that claim.  Sometimes I talk plain talk and you should not try to spin that as a character attack.  I don't remember the details about your system in part because you play word and riddle games to drop hints.  I tune out.

All that I can tell you is that the diagram you posted with the "Travis Effect" is unremarkable and doesn't show anything special.  You appear to believe that it does.

You have stated that the system works so I will wait for news of a definitive demo that is going to be verified by independent third parties.  Mother Nature is not on your side however.

I can't explain the conflict between your claim and what we know about buoyancy and gravity:

The Model pictured is our Data collection model

We use a special method to activate and deactivate

Buoyancy in such a system to allow

that "Buoyancy" to be used in conjunction with

gravity to be able to provide excess energy.



The extra Energy is currently converted

into Electricity for the purpose of

Demonstrating our systems ability to exceed

its own operating cost and provide Net Energy

Can you tell us when you plan some kind of demo that will be verified by independent third-party testers?

MileHigh

[tibor.gats]

Vince,
can you please send me the drawing?: tibor.gats at gmail dot com
I'd like to understand Z.E.P., but from your description I don't see how these cylinders are arranged.
Thanks,
Tibor

[johnny874]

Hi MileHigh,
Wayne  said already that no air is going in or out, so it is a closed cycle.

Maybe you should call hard Skeptic Mark Dansie and let it explain to you or
you are going also to visit Wayne ?


The only 2 things that are different is the air volume to have the same lift force !

So in the Travis effect case you need less energy to pump the air under the bucket from below.

How his complete cycle and his machine really works is still a mystery to me.
Only one cylinder at the time is pushing, but what is the other cylinder then doing at this instance ?
Where is its air stored for later reuse ?

As this works somehow like a see-saw the lift must be switchable on and off...

When it is off, where does the air go ??


Maybe if someone has an idea we can try to reverse engineer it over here !

Regards, Stefan.

   Stefan,
  What might be happening is that when one weight drops, it lifts another. D@mn, I just quoted Bessler.    I think it would be easier to work with vacuum than with compressed air. It is possible he is using compressed air. What could be happening is that as the bellows opens, it loses pressure.
This would still require a vacuum side to lift the other bellow inverting the Travis Effect. This effect mirrors hydraulics which I am using in bessler's wheel. That does not reverse direction and resets because of rotation and continuous flow.
With what Mr. Wayne has, he would need a diaphram that can change the potential of the 2 sides. this would require a lot of movement. This would most likley be used in conjunction with heavy weights to store momentum and carry past the failure point to where it has a chance to work. After all, f = ma. A heavy enough weight would have stored energy from being on the side with the highest air pressure.
A vacuum would lift the opposing side operating the hydraulics that powers the generator. Outside of this, not sure what would have a chance of working. This is because if pressurized air is working to cause one effect, then a vacuum would be needed to compliment it in it's opposing behavior.
Reversing directions when dealing with a high energy potential (even slow movement) requires a significant change in pressure and/or force.
And considering patents do protect the inventor and others in here have posted their patent numbers, do need to be suspicious of why being here with a working idea worth money.

                                                                                                 Jim