Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[TinselKoala]

@Conradelectro:

Koalas aren't very good at supplying drawings of our work. We prefer to show things more graphically using pictures and videos. Some people don't like the shaky camera but it's the best I can do.... all the other people in my grand conspiracy seem to be "virtual" in that I never see them and they are never around to help me to do anything useful like hold a camera. They only show up on payday.... wait.... there aren't even any paydays to worry about these days, so I don't even get to see them then, never mind.

The difference between my PerPump and the standard Fountain of Heron self-powered water pump is that I have incorporated a single-layer (I think) TinselZed in the lower chamber. I call it a TinselZed because the floating Pod displacer and the first Riser1 are locked together so that they lift simultaneously, and I think this is different from MrWayne's Zed which has a free pod separate from any riser, although it does push up on the innermost riser when it floats.
The only inlet to the lower chamber is to the bottom center, that is, to the pod chamber defined by the inner ringwall sealed to the bottom of the main chamber. When the pod/riser is in place there is a thin layer of water between the pod and the ringwall, and another fatter layer between the ringwall and the riser skirt, and then between the riser skirt and the chamber wall another fatter layer of water. All three layers have surfaces that vary in height with reponse to the pressures inside, in just the same manner as the Zeds do with unlocked floating pods in MrWayne's system, if I am understanding that system correctly.
I've found that with just the right amount of "precharge" water in the operating TinselZed chamber, the operation of the pump is somewhat enhanced over that found with no "working" parts in the TinselZed chamber.

So... I have made a table-top self-powered water pump that will pump an 8 inch or greater head, which uses a modified Zed to enhance its pumping ability. This pump will run indefinitely, as long as its input reservoir is kept filled and its output reservoir is emptied. There is a small amount of useful power that can be extracted from the fountain portion by running it past an overshot wheel, for example. This "excess" power could be extracted over the entire time that the pump runs, could be accumulated in batteries or capacitors, or used to lift a small weight.

A test of this pump, showing the action of the modified Zed working to enhance the output flow, can be seen in this irrelevant video on my YT channel here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlLYD4CSJLU

No... I am not claiming any "prize" even though I think I've fulfilled the letter if not the intent of MrWayne's cynical challenge. I've spent no money at all on this project, unless you count the amortized cost of the instant coffee. My consumption has gone up since I've started this work !

What I have shown, I believe, is that there is some effect on internal pressures caused by the operation of the TinselZed and that this effect seems to enhance my PerPump's ability to pump.  Take that or leave it, for whatever it is worth to whomever can use it. Me... I'm pretty well done with being insulted for my efforts to understand what is going on here.

[mrwayne]

TK,
I tire of your effort to ask questions outside of the bounds of my limitations and then asserting a nefarious motive. I have put up with it to allow you time to do your due dilligense.

Since you first came to this page - we have repeated I am not here for an armchair review of our equipment.

The offer was - If you want to participate - get your hands wet. I will not be in the business of telling you how to think or observe the repeatable characterstics of our ZED technology.

Each time you rant about how I avoid your questions - let me be clear - and respectful - you were told in advance - stay on topic - badgering and head gaming is not effective. Thank you.

Your questions and comments give me cause for concern.

What is your motive for coming to a discussion where I am sharing how to build a  ZED and trying to turn the topic into a review of our Hard earned research and data collection?

From my poor memory:
You have asked about our input and out put
then Energy
then the patent
then the sensors
then the pumps
then the batteries
The run data
You show - two photo misidentifying a hose connect to the other ZED and assert it was a power cord from the lab.
You were shocked at our initialization system.
You also said you would keep nothing confidential.
you have thrown me away into the idiot file and picked me back out on to the rim.
And you have not persisted on diverting the subject to your personal desires - to find something "secret" within our system.
You have warned that you may file the scientific papers before others..
Now - Exactly what do I owe you?

Who told you that you have a right to hard earned work, discovery and effort - just because it is free energy?

Thank you and good day.

p.s.
And I do not need to know anything about your pump, it is cute. I hike to the top of the mountains to see natural springs - at the top of the mountain...pretty cool.

[Pirate88179]

Have you all seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS1KXMsE2qk&feature=plcp

Does not work with water...but works with beer.  Who knew?

Obviously it is temporary but.....pretty cool to see.

Bill

[TinselKoala]

TK,
I must be tired - because your questions have been answered.
Wayne

I have been completely through this thread several times and I have not been able to find your answer to this question here:
In your simple three layer system that is clearly overunity by itself-- your exact words -- how is the clear overunity determined, and what is the input work and output work for that simple system that is clearly overunity by itself?

If you've answered this question before PLEASE give me a link to the answer, if you don't want to write a short paragraph answering it again. You have here made a claim about a simpler  system than your large, difficult to analyse one, and I am just asking you to support your rather amazing claim.

And those other questions I've been asking that you say you've answered before.... do you mind if I summarize what I understand to be the answers?

How long has it run for, maximum?  Answer that I believe: A "few hours".

What supplies the power for the control system in the short video from Mark D. a few days ago? Answer that I believe: The same mains supply that supplies all your home's and shop's electrical power.

I don't know where this power comes into the system... you say Mark would have noticed an extension cord.... well, where DOES the power come in then, if not by the "thing" I indicated in the frame from the video? I'm sure Mark would have noticed if there was NO power cord but the thing still lit up anyway.....

Please correct me if I am wrong about these things. It's easy to do... simple declarative sentences of the form "The power cord for the controls is ..... " .
You have said that you aren't going to share the run time data.... OK, I'll stop asking about that, if you stop claiming that it runs for hours or days without giving the actual numbers.

At least we finally did get an answer to my earlier question that took you so long to come right out and answer .... you have a patent application filed with the USPTO, not a granted patent.... yet.

[mrwayne]

The laughable point right now is that you seem to be claiming that it _did_ have external power for the control system.... you say this one had no generator, no batteries charged by its own running.... but you are also saying that Mark would have noticed the power supply cord if there was one.

So where does the power for the control system come from?  It's another simple question that you find hard to answer with a simple declarative sentence: "The power for the control system and sensors in that unit comes from the shop, it comes in by the yellow extension cord " or whatever "that can be seen here" pointing it out in a photo.

You KNOW I'd do this much for you, I hope.

And just because several people see the same holes in your story does not mean that they are working together in some big conspiracy against you. The only information about you and your system that I have been "fed" is that its longest run time so far has been a few hours.... and that information came from somebody you have had on-site -- NOT from one of my skeptical "friends", whoever they are. And I've asked you directly if this information is correct or not.... and your answer is that you will not share run data.

TK to date 
All "Holes in the story" have been self imagined.
As I said before - We deal with the truth here - not imagination and speculation..
Wayne
Good day.