Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[DiscerningDave]

OK, I decided to study this more carefully to see if I could understand how the ZED works and how it is over unity.  I couldn't grasp it for a while, and I was getting a headache.  And then, it hit me.  If there is an effimp sitting between the two sides of the ZED, that would probably do it.  One effimp per layer on a three-layer system would certainly be over unity! 

Wayne, are you using effimps in your design, or have I simply stumbled upon another solution to the over unity problem?

[TinselKoala]

John, I went back and read all of your posts 25 in the last seven days - to try to see what you were elluding to in your opinions.
Your question does not represent our system -  Michel responded to you correctly.

Good luck.

Wayne

Your question does not represent our system?? What is that supposed to mean?

Minnie asked a couple of questions: how big would a HDPE system be that would run his house, and another question that didn't even mention a Zed or any of Mister Wayne's claims: simply how much water(gravity) at 10 meters head would be needed to power a 22 gpm pump at 2250 psi.

Based on the alleged output figures that were given for THE ONLY UNIT WE HAVE EVER SEEN MAKING AN OUTPUT... not even the one Mark videoed..... we have 36 Watts output in the big unit. So anyone can DO THE MATH for themselves. If you want to speculate about non-existent devices, that's up to you I guess, Mister Wayne.....

Is there something wrong with my calculation of the answer to minnie's question? The only application it has to any of mister Wayne's claims is that it gives everyone some real idea just what 20 kW represents in terms of flow rate, water and pressure head.

Your question does not represent our system. What a laugh. Your question shows that Mister Wayne's 20 kW system in a small footprint is a fantasy, that's what it does.


Now....we've had a bunch more verbiage from Mister Wayne. But you will note that there is still NO STRAIGHT ANSWER to these simple questions I asked earlier:

So ask him these questions, Minnie -- and see if you get a straight, simple answer:

Do you, Mister Wayne Travis, have at this moment, Tuesday November 13 2012, an OPERATING DEVICE -- one that operates right now -- running on NO INPUT, that produces USEFUL WORK OUTPUT , electrical or otherwise, for a reasonable length of time, say, long enough to heat up a standard water heater tank and provide hot showers for four people? If so, what are the "footprint" dimensions of this device?

Do you now at this moment have... or have you EVER HAD..... an operating device that produces an output of 10 kW, running on NO INPUT, for any length of time at all? If so, what is the "footprint" of this device? What is the nature of its output (electrical, mechanical, heat, etc?)

Oh.... wait.... those questions DO "represent" Mister Wayne's system. What are the answers? I do not believe Mister Wayne will lie to us. The answers are either YES, or .... NO.

(And it's "alluding", not "elluding". If you want to sound erudite, Mister Wayne, at least use a dictionary.)

[TinselKoala]

Webby... if you think you are attaining some kind of overunity performance... why isn't mondrasek? I'm sure he'd like to, as well. Maybe you can explain to him what he's doing wrong. Is there some critical difference, do you think, between cut-up tennis ball packaging material, and discarded pop bottles?

[TinselKoala]

Yet we are completely allowing the Validation teams to measure anyway they choose - no restrictions and no secrets - we have nothing to hide - and any true validation needs to be as thorough.

Any way they choose.... just not _when_ they choose. You are speaking in present tense. Are there, then, validation teams measuring any way they choose..... RIGHT NOW?

[mrwayne]

Goodbye TK.
Larry will be sending invitations to our known support team members to our private forum. 
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Thank you Larry for the organization. Wayne Travis
President
HydroEnergy Revolution LLC
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com