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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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neptune

@Mondrasek. I am not sure that I fully understand your question. When you speak of a "Muller type" generator, are you talking of a permanent magnet alternator, or one using the alleged Lenz law cancelling principle, which is proving so elusive. Wayne is using a wind generator type alternator. These are permanent magnet alternators designed to work at a few hundred RPM, as opposed to say , a car alternator which typically need to spin at several thousand RPM. Wind generator alternators are relatively expensive, but can have efficiencies better than 90%, whereas a car alternator can have an efficiency as low as 27%! So untill and unless someone cracks the Lenz law thing, wind alternators are our best bet .
         Looking at the video, the ZEDs seem to complete one cycle in roughly 10 seconds, so when connected to a crankshaft, that would give us a crankshaft speed of 6 RPM. So we would need a gear ratio of roughly 100 to 1. As a guess we could expect such a gear box to have at best an efficiency of 50%. Fortunately, as Wayne says, we have an abundance of energy to play with. It is possible that a better way will be found, but right now, Wayne has a cost effective working solution.

see3d

When it comes to electric generators, it is not RPM, but surface speed that counts.  For instance, if a 6 RPM crankshaft was connected to a very large diameter flywheel with high performance magnets on the outer surface, It could be an efficient generator.  The inertia of the flywheel would help when the load on the generator varies.  However, the inertia of the flywheel would also force the ZEDs to run at a single natural frequency.

neptune

@see3d. Actually that is an interesting point. There might even be a cost effective compromise here. For instance, we could gear up from the crankshaft by a modest 3 to 1, which would then need a flywheel only one third the size, for instance. Somewhere in there is the best compromise of gearbox ratio, gearbox efficiency,flywheel diameter, surface speed and cost. To a professional mathematician, a problem like that is a dream come true.

mondrasek

@neptune, by "Muller type generator" I meant one that has and odd number of rotating magnets vs. an even number of coils (or vise versa) so that the "cogging" of the generator is minimized.  I personally am not sure how efficient those types of generators are.  But I believe they are used in modern wind turbines, so I assume they are the least loss conversion method we know of.

The last time we collaborated was on a "Muller" type system, IIRC.  So I thought that fact was humorous.

Maybe it's just me?  Either way, cheers!

M.

mrwayne

Hello Seamus,
I do not deal in "predictions" - nor opinion, nor guesses, nor dogma, nor feelings.
All of our testing has been physical testing, repeatability, consistency - hands on experimenting - real research.

Study the useage of a Non linear functioning system -
When you understand it - you will see that "the Load" improves our efficiency.
Thanks
Wayne