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More efficient wind mill??

Started by Dr, April 21, 2011, 09:49:05 PM

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lancaIV

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=szilard+pataki+akos+honti+patent&oq=szilard+pataki+akos+honti+patent&aqs=heirloom-srp..
1995 International award win for the( 1995 ) 17 years old hungarian inventors Akos Horn and Szilard Pataki
http://epub.hpo.hu/e-kutatas/?lang=EN
Efficiency in comparison with conventional blade rotor : + 200%  measured on prototype modell
https://www.neues-deutschland.de/ausgabe/1995-11-28 " Reichlich Windkraft"

                                 "The Hungary Converter"
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuetec-forschung.de%2Fwind%2Fwind.html

                                   Poeschel-generator

http://www.aladin24.de/htm/images/poeschel_generator.jpg
Easy enough for fast and accurate 3d metal printer http://windwandler.de/
But also - with 3,5 KW generator and average 2,6 m/sec wind : 800+ KWh pess.  to  2800+ KWh opt.  p. a.

Price  ? https://www.haustechnikdialog.de/Forum/t/11629/Fragen-zu-Windwandler-WINDUS2004                  7000 Euro.                         for this Wind converter ( Mast,  Installation incl. /excl. ?)
Interestant for wind generator investors   :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwindwandler.de%2FPages%2FLEIST_3.html

4 different examples with same average 2,6 Km/h per annum but the gains dependant from peak velocity
and the power density and conversion difference between 2,6 m/ 22 m per second wind force :

                   2,6 m/sec : 4 W                 and.                   22 m/ sec : 3300 W
               
                   as nominal 3500 Watt generator output ( nominal RPM ?)

                  8,5 times higher Wind velocity means 825 times higher Wind power

lancaIV

From Wind mill  to wind- ing generator. :
Generator
https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2748183A1
+Motor-couple
https://www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/can-better-electric-motor-save-plane
1 KW mechanical output : 0,9 (  0,9 ~ 90% for conventional e- motor efficiency) ~ 1100 W electric input the Catalan motor needs 1/2 the electric input compared with conventional e- motors : 550 W e- input

1 KW mechanical e- motor output x 0,9 ( 90% efficiency for conventional e-generators) ~ 900 W electric output the Hara generator doubles the electric output = 1800 W electric output

Input/ Output calculation Hara-Catalan- couple :
550 W in and 1800 W out , in one year 4.821 KWh input and 15.778 KWh output :

                                                                      C.O.P. 3,27
So we have in future several solution for energy exploration :Wind ( with/- out motor assist) Solar ( un/- concentrated) and static or rotative kineto-electric force amplifier
( Hey ramset/Chet,  did you get some results about " 1/3 output improvement by generator coil coating " ?  ;) )
                                                                      C.O.P. 3,27 x 1,333( Periode :-[ ) ~ 4,36   ::)

lancaIV

Comparison:
400 W conventional generator
400 Watt modified generator

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arestov.de%2Findex.php%2Fde%2Felektromotoren%2Fwindenergie

with 3500 W conventional generator

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwindwandler.de%2FPages%2FLEIST_3.html
20 m/sec conventional 400 W generator : 70 Watt output   70/400 = 0,175 ~ 17,5% efficiency 

20 m/sec  conventional 3500 W generator : 2100 Watt output  2100/3500 = 0,6 ~ 60% efficiency         

                         20 m/sec = 72 Km/h stormy weather

5-6 m/ sec modified 400 W generator : 140 Watt 140/400 = 0,35 ~ 35% efficiency
5-6 m/ sec conventional 3500 W generator : 70 Watt 70/3500 = 0,02 ~ 2% efficiency

                      5-6 m/sec =  22 Km/h coastal steedy breeze

10-12 m/sec modified 400 W generator : 320 Watt 320/400 = 0,8 ~ 80% efficiency
10-12 m/sec conventional 3500 W generator : 500 Watt 500/3500 = 0,143 ~ 14,3% efficiency

                      10-12 m/sec = 43 Km/h strong wind

17 m/sec comparison  +- 1300 Watt with 3500 Watt ( RPM ?) generator
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwindwandler.de%2FPages%2FLEIST_3.html
        7000 Euros +

17 m/sec : 1000 Watt with ?? Watt/RPM generator
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wiwo.de%2Ftechnologie%2Fgreen%2Fmarke-eigenbau-tueftler-entwickelt-windturbine-fuer-22-euro%2F13549092.html
    25 Euros + generator +


          Daniell Connell turbine + Arestov double winding generator
        (  also here , for 24/365 electricity generation option : Li Yng transmission coupled on shaft )

lancaIV

Instead  up to 10000 US$ only 750 US$ for a small wind turbine :
https://www.1millionwomen.com.au/blog/low-cost-wind-turbine-power-entire-house-lifetime-starts-selling-india/

Wind energy conversion now in the 2 US$cents/KWh(included subsidies) / 5 US$cents/KWh( excluded) purchase range:
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-in/wind-energy-is-one-of-the-cheapest-sources-of-electricity-and-its-getting-cheaper/

                                So a 2 US$cents/KWh conversion concept -without subsidy -

                                                       and including subsidy means :                                                                   
                                                                    0 US$cent/KWh

Israel "Airpower " electricity production costs for their 24/365 " 10 KW wind chamber" 3,4 US$cents/KWh,
now without patent and ownership restrictions to built for 2 US$cents/KWh and less conditioning.

Similar " energy converter" planned by aveuropa.net-group : 1 US$cent/KWh production costs
                                                             
                           

                                                                         wind force to gas/ liquid

http://www.dotyenergy.com/
What is the rest costs calculation for 0 US$cent/KWh electricity use and 0 US$/ ton. CO2 costs( reuse costs compensation by CO2- certificate paying consumer/user) for a moveable syngas/fuel production plant , installed beside CO2 delivering pipeline  ?               
                                   40 US$/barris(barrel, barril, Fass a 159 Liter)

Can this  "wind syn/gas-fuel " become cracked up to 8 times by this process:
                                          1 part synfuel/7 parts hydrogen synthese
                                   https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2859958A1/sv                                 
                                                                      Liquid Wind
                                             < 20,0 US$/barrel CO2-neutral syn-crack fuel                                   
                                                   0,5 US$/gal.

Impossible  ?                             SYNTROLEUM announced 19 US$/bbl synfuel price
                                                 https://www.dieselnet.com/tech/fuel_syn.php                                       

                                                  Table1                        0,5 US$/ 1 mmbtu natural gas

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324141540_Shale_gas_production_costs_Historical_developments_and_outlook
                                                              shale gas 2,5 US$/ mmbtu +

          What is cheaper :  1 mmbtu shale gas or David Judbarovski 0,1 US$/gal. hydrogen ?
           250 US$cents/ 293 KWh shale gas price or 10 US$cents/37,58 KWh " solar/wind" hydrogen ?

                    Which energy kind becomes more expensive because carbon-credit tax ?

                                  dry grassland- instead firing- to bio-syn-crack gas/fuel  ?
                         https://www.google.com/search?q=cool+planet+fuel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

                                 https://patents.google.com/patent/EP0078799A1/en                                       

                                               What is here the "kick-factor" ?                   

                            1 Liter bio syn-crack fuel in - and much more calories out. ?               

                                                     Fusion reactor principle