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Alternate Fuel for Diesel and Gasoline Engines - 100% off the Bowser

Started by ElectricGoose, May 09, 2011, 08:42:38 PM

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Cherryman

I see you guys talked also about catalysts,

Remember this one?  2007 !   

Just water touching it creates instant steam over 100 degrees .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAM6dRaVhWg

I think the stuff was classified immediately after this broadcast  ;)

kampen

MIT Plasmatron & Arvin Meritor

The “plasmatron” ( a plasma source having coaxial cylindrical electrodes with a swirling gas flow to ameliorate electrode erosion) was invented in Russia in the 1970′s.
The inventor, Rabinovich, was able to find a job at MIT and, when H2 generation/fuel conversion/NOx removal was at a rage, worked w/Cohn & Bromberg at MIT on a plasmatron for fuel conversion and generating H2 reductant for NOx removel.

Arvin Meritor became an industrial backer of the device, hoping to find a large market for it. People wonder ‘What ever became of the MIT/Arvin Meritor plasmatron?’ â€" it seemed to work so well.

No conspiracy here: the device did work well for short periods of time; however, for reasonable operating times required of industrial/automotive devices, the MIT plasmatron made bunches and bunches of soot â€" very undesirable to inject into an engine or a NOx-removal system.

Discovering this, Arvin Meritor promptly dumped MIT and withdrew funds for subsequent work.

If one looks at Cohn et al work at MIT in the past few years, they have moved on to advanced ethanol engines â€" or whatever else is the rage at the time.
Dr. Louis Rosocha
Applied Physics Consulting
Los Alamos, NM
&
22+-year Alumnus/Retiree of the Los Alamos National Laboratory

ramset

Wow
Talk about pieces of a puzzle
Los Alamos, Santilli ,Magnagas,Plasmatron..........

?
Hey RM,
Hows that Plasma nozzle work that you posted
Looks very Doable and simple?

With E.Gooses link to the Ambient temp LEP[low energy pulse] Carbon Fiber Thingy we should start talking about
HOW??
Thanks
Chet
PS
Cherryman
Can't see vids on this Putor ,Whats that from 07?
Thanks
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

evolvingape

Hi Chet,

Read this link again that you posted:

http://waterfuel.100free.com/plasmatron.html

Pay attention to the PICTURES... recognise parts of them ?

Now read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29

Then read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scramjet

A picture speaks a thousand words so they say...

Then learn about barrel porting to create a vortex:

http://www.paintballtimes.com/Article.asp?ID=26

Rifling works in imparting spin, that's why every highly evolved assault rifle in the world today is rifled ;)

Then re-read the first link and look for the picture near the bottom I have reproduced “Injection Axial Radial Vortex”

I have given you sleeving technology and off the shelf hydraulic fittings to make an injector. Use your initiative to create the effects in this diagram. Axial, Radial or Vortex...

Then realise you need one "Voltage / Current" value to create Plasma and another to combust it...

Realise that if you harness sunlight you get steam, which is self pressurised and requires no user input to pump pressure. It is also a vapor and can be converted into Plasma via a high voltage electrical arc, which is undergoing high pressure compression and supersonic velocities due to HELIS, before combustion and subsequent conversion to high velocity fluid.

Yes the Plasma Injector is very “doable” because I have already outlined the technology, theory, and components before I told you what it was.

Now you know...

Water Plasma Injectors are not so complicated anymore :)

There is really nothing left for me to say. I have finished.

RM :)

ElectricGoose

Quote from: Cherryman on May 19, 2011, 02:03:28 PM
I see you guys talked also about catalysts,

Remember this one?  2007 !   

Just water touching it creates instant steam over 100 degrees .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAM6dRaVhWg

I think the stuff was classified immediately after this broadcast  ;)

OK

Either way it doesn't matter "what happened" to this tech.  It's all just speculation and pointless time wasting unless you know the specs of the device.  Stay on task...build something with the knowledge you have.

Regarding the device in the youtube vid, I wouldnt worry about it anyway.  It's HIGHLY unlikely its a FE source.  The catalyst would have been something like a powerful oxidizer 'pellet'.  There are plenty of raw metals that will combust and flash boil water but these are always converted into another form of energy and then used up.  If those guys manufactured an alloy (which has been done) it would be effective but still only give you X amount of hours 'fuel' time.

Besides, these types of metals are not cheap, are restricted and can't be purchased at the corner store.  Therefore, after you think it out...NOT PRACTICAL.