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[ElectricGoose]

Ok guys I have finished all the reposts that I feel were pertinent to the discussion.

I have left the HHO information in there as in my opinion we simply do not know enough about this technology yet and it would be premature to exclude it on current assumptions.

It might just be the curious guy that gives it a go that makes the breakthrough, so I feel it is only right that they have the knowledge available if they want it. (Plus I personally love HHO  )

I think I am going to put up a summary and maybe a new better graphic when I have had a chance to sleep on all this, this technology has really got me excited in a way that has been absent for a while. It is getting my full attention... that's for sure 

RM

RM

Thanks for going to the effort of copy and paste.

By all means, if your love is HHO...then so be it.  Who of us has not been warned by friends of a Gal we might be dating and they say "she is no good for ya!" ....but when the love is there...who can stop it???  LOL

May your HHo mistress not take you for every penny you have 

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Oily Goose

[TheOne]

My dear fellow....youre damning yourself before you have even started!!  :-)

An efficient reactor suitable for a 4 cylinder engine could fit in the palm of your hand.  As far as heat goes, there is plenty to be had around the exhaust which is outside the engine bay.  You spread the components around and there is plenty of room.

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The only problem is you need to store a lot of plastic in the container to get a useful amount of gas, 1kg of plastic for 1L of oil, So ideal size reactor must be able to contain the amount of L in KG from the gas tank, so it can be big unless you process the oil on your garage

So a JEEP with 80 L gas tank. Ideal reactor must be able to store 80 KG of plastic/rubber to get the same mileage?

[ElectricGoose]

The only problem is you need to store a lot of plastic in the container to get a useful amount of gas, 1kg of plastic for 1L of oil, So ideal size reactor must be able to contain the amount of L in KG from the gas tank, so it can be big unless you process the oil on your garage

So a JEEP with 80 L gas tank. Ideal reactor must be able to store 80 KG of plastic/rubber to get the same mileage?

OK...good questions but youre still thinking old school and the blinded paradigm.  Virtually none of what you suggests applies because -

1)  We have 80L fuel tanks CURRENTLY because our vehicles are designed to be horribly WASTEFUL gas guzzling pieces of metal. SOoooooo..... -
2)  IF you start thinking that you now have a device that delivers 5X the mileage (minimum)....this suddenly shrinks the fuel tank right!
3)  With a syngas reactor you dont need huge amounts of oil/plastic on hand because a half litre of carbon material catalysed with WATER (dont forget the water), expands the energy density 100 fold into explosive gas.

What do you see with geet?  Thats not complex and its not even the best way to accomplish it either.

[ElectricGoose]

Heres a little bit of history on where the gasification process started....Good old Germans in the 1920's...damn theyre smart fellas.  By the war era they were producing thousands of barrels of synthetic diesel per day using this method of catalysation from biomass.

What is old is now new again and rather than trashing it, smart countries are taking off with this tech.  Australia has a big plant able to produce synthetic diesel from anything like coal, biomass waste, plastics etc.

All the modern plants are a ripoff of the patented Fischer Tropsch process from 1920.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer%E2%80%93Tropsch_process

[sergenet]

I agree with ElectricGoose that HHO is a waste of time and money. I tinkered with it for a while and blew the gasket off my engine because I could not control the amount of HHO going into the ICE. Using emulsifiers to mix water and gas is the way to go plus it is very cheap.

@Chet, if you are going to try and buy/build a gasification unit let me know.
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