PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Ouch, this thread is suddenly getting cold and harsh even with some
"Dear", "Regards" and "Kindest".

When I was young, I was taught that Maths and Science were the ultimate
non questionable knowledges. Was I being lied to?
Is, for example, Georg Cantor, really right?

Very Nothing.

I apologise that my post was off topic.  I was confused.  You see the thread is promoted by JouleSeeker about a claim by PhysicsProf Steven E Jones - to encourage work - presumably - on his circuit.  Yet that discourse on the E-Cat was posted here and NOT on the E-cat thread.  Anyway.  Hopefully Professor can post both his comments and my reply to the appropriate.  I do feel that - since he took the trouble to post it - that he wanted some comment.  Surely?

Kindest as ever,
R

[nul-points]

 

Ouch, this thread is suddenly getting cold
[...]

fortunately the e-Cat generates plenty of excess heat - both 'in' and 'out' of forums! 

[JouleSeeker]

Dear JouleSeeker,

Just another point.  Don't feel bad that Rossi didn't reply to your offer to check out that 'gamma ray' emission.  He's probably rather busy.  I imagine he's be a bit preoccupied at the moment. It's hardly likely to be that he suspects you are out to 'blacken' his good name.  The evidence shows us that you are MOST objective.

Kindest regards again
Rosemary

Thanks for that last comment Rose -- I do value objective measurements.

So my friend Fransceso Celani went to a Rossi demo and brought with him a Sodium-Iodide gamma spectrometer, an elegant measuring tool.  Here's what happened:

When Celani went in to see the [Rossi] experiment in action, he brought out the sodium iodide detector and prepared to change it to spectrum mode, which would give him more information about the ongoing reaction. Rossi objected vociferously, saying the spectrum would give Celani (or anyone else who see it), all they need to know to replicate the machine ...

Celani later groused that there is no point to inviting scientists to a demo if you have no intentions of lett[ing] them use their own instruments.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg51226.html

I welcome:

1.  Objective measurements with the best devices available -- such as an NaI gamma-spectrum detector, as brought by physicist Celani -- and opposed "vociferously" by Rossi.
Celani was not allowed to use his objective measuring device.  Gamma spectral lines would quickly provide data on which (if any) nuclear reactions or decays were occurring.

2. Replication of experiments, which is the heart of good science -- also evidently opposed by Rossi.  Indeed -- has anyone replicated the Rossi experiment?

3.  Open source, sharing of inventions for the good of MANKIND, rather than for beaucoup-bucks. 
(As I did with my Solar Funnel Cooker, for example, and my cold-fusion results.)
Fair compensation for inventors and builders is expected.

So here you see it - a good scientist, Celani, was prepared with his own instrument to take measurements and PROVE (or disprove; that's objectivity) the Rossi claims -- and was prevented from making measurements by Rossi.  Sigh.  Not good for science and humanity, is it?

What else could it be, if not "cold fusion"?  Celani answers with a degree of scientific caution:

Celani says ready for anything that went ... with 20 kg of equipment! The possible tricks could be a power cable hidden in the reactor or radioactive material. http://pesn.com/2011/07/25/9501876_E-Cat_Competitors_Revealed_During_Viareggio_Conference/

You see, Rose, I welcome objective measurements by independent scientists, replication and open-source sharing of information for the benefit of mankind (as opposed to secrecy and big-money-seeking). 

[JouleSeeker]

You see, Rose, I welcome objective measurements by independent scientists, replication and open-source sharing of information for the benefit of mankind (as opposed to secrecy and big-money-seeking). 

Indeed, these are the goals of the New Renaissance prizes, but if you do not support these objectives (do you?) then I would expect you would not support the New Renaissance either.

PS --

Rosemary said:  If, indeed, the E-Cat is able to transmute nickle to copper and iron - and if it comes out in such copious quantities - then - frankly - why bother with using the E-cat as a generator?  I would have thought that Rossi's time would be far better spent in manufacturing copper.  HUGELY profitable.  One should alert him to this potential.  It seems that he's overlooked it.  I'm absolutely satisfied that he would make considerably more money in this way...

I don't think so Rose -- check the numbers, comparing the amount of copper produced in this way versus the cost of the electricity produced.  (Again -- IF Rossi's device works as claimed.  Note also that some of the copper SHOULD be radioactive, one would expect as I explained earlier.)

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Hello again Professor,

I've already been called out for elaborating on that Rossi business on this thread.  I suppose we should just leave it there.  Or better still - discuss it where it is more the thread topic.

I was rather confused when I saw the JouleSeeker claiming PhysicsProf - Steven E. Jones has a circuit producing COP>8.  If that's the case - and, as it seems that you and PhysicsProf are the same person - then indeed.  It's wonderful news.  Well done.  Hopefully, in the fullness of time, you'll tell us all how you managed this.

Kindest regards, as ever,
Rosemary