PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[JouleSeeker]

  I've been reading the Muller/RomeroUK thread, trying to keep up.  Good discussion.  Bolt and a few others continue to assert that an OU device ALREADY exists, even though the OU.com prize remains unclaimed. 

  I'd appreciate comments on the assertion.  Do you think it is true that Konehead (Doug K) or Bedini or Stiffler or Muller company  (or someone else )  has ALREADY a working device?  PlasmERG?  Magnacoaster?

If so, what is needed now?  Better testing / verification?  Publishing the results?  Patents?  Or building devices around the world?  Are we to that point yet?? 

Your comments would be appreciated...  I guess I'm new to so much of the research in this area.
I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed, not much actually published (in scientific journals) if anything...

[e2matrix]

I've seen and talked with people for around 20 years on this including meeting konehead in person many years ago as well as some other inventors.  And some people I've met just by chance who new of someone who had been running an OU device quietly.  I have no doubt some of the big news devices hailed as being OU which then seem to fade into the woodwork have either been paid by certain interests to hold off production or threatened or any number of other things that happen.  Somewhere around here is a document detailing a couple hundred different devices that for many of those reasons and others are not yet available to the public.  Murders, threats, bought out and shelved, legal troubles that suddenly show up, gone into hiding and a myriad of other reasons are what you see.  Some of course are outright scams.   That is why I think it's almost as important to have a plan in place before finding OU as to how you can get it out into the world.  It's a difficult but I believe not impossible problem.

[JimU]

  I've been reading the Muller/RomeroUK thread, trying to keep up.  Good discussion.  Bolt and a few others continue to assert that an OU device ALREADY exists, even though the OU.com prize remains unclaimed. 

  I'd appreciate comments on the assertion.  Do you think it is true that Konehead (Doug K) or Bedini or Stiffler or Muller company  (or someone else )  has ALREADY a working device?  PlasmERG?  Magnacoaster?

If so, what is needed now?  Better testing / verification?  Publishing the results?  Patents?  Or building devices around the world?  Are we to that point yet?? 

Your comments would be appreciated...  I guess I'm new to so much of the research in this area.
I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed, not much actually published (in scientific journals) if anything...

As far as just existence of an OU device, if it is actually possible, then it would seem the
breadth of work by numerous folks would have produced one and probably more than once.

But as stated by others above, this does not make such a device visible nor necessarily accessible
to the world, for various and sundry reasons, such as holding back details for possible commercial
development, quite a reasonable decision.

Back when I was becoming interested in OU, the Sweet VTA had recently been demonstrated
to Bearden and others, for instance.  Their feedback was that it was for real.  But, even if so,
there was apparently serendipity at work making it hard to replicate and also some details were
kept quiet.  Since then Mr. Sweet has left this world and his knowledge with him.

I personally like JL Naudin's S2Gen as a potential OU candidate, though JL is not clearly claiming
it as such, as I wrote in an earlier reply.

Best,  Jim

[neptune]

@Jouleseeker . You ask does an OU device already exist . I personally believe that it does . I believe the Plasmerg engine is real . Heat pumps are obviously real . I would expect it likely that the Military of many nations are using OU machines . What about the 10, 000 patents seized by the American government . You are a learned man in your chosen field , but like the rest of us , there are perhaps things you need to learn about Psychology and Politics . If the Plasmerg engine hits the market place , it will necessitate a complete change in the way we live our lives . An end to pollution , starvation and poverty . But also a change for the Ivy League fat cats . The first sign of change will be Rossi`s Ecat . Mankind may be destined for a Golden Age , but first , a terrible amount of blood will be shed .

[jmmac]

This subject is interesting: Are there OU devices?

I really hope so. It would make the life of humanity much easier and it would be very interesting to see - new developments in physics.

There seems to be a lot of anecdotal evidence of the existence of extraordinary devices, from many countries, for many decades...

But... There is something bothering me a lot! I have a really hard time believing that for over 100 years, so many people have constructed OU devices but there is always a strange reason for it not becoming available, for not being commercially exploited. It defies statistics. I just don't buy the conspiracy theories. Maybe in the US the government is always conspiring in the shadows and sends MIB. But not in the rest of the world where there are also many allegations of OU devices.

So, why aren't those OU devices developed in the 70s, 80s and 90s producing GWh of free energy right now? Why aren't the inventors rich? I don't know and that bothers me.

Jaime.