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What significance would a gravity powered device have compared to all others?

Started by christo4_99, July 03, 2011, 04:02:41 AM

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christo4_99

If someone comes here looking for "free energy" what do they get? I can go down the street and get a Fresnel lens from and old t.v. my neighbor threw out but been there done that. i could build a Joe Cell and pretend that it will help my gas mileage among other things here and there to supplement and exploit existing energy technologies to at most become a thrifty energy miser. So a working Bessler wheel or the like far exceeds anything posted in this forum and/or others because that promise is the fuel-less shaft that turns and not just some kind of add on to something else.How can anyone pretend that something so significant should be treated with the same respect as this whole ball of wax? There is a good nature here...I am not saying that the heart is not in the right place.I am just saying that there is no comparison on Earth to Bessler's alleged (however well documented and proven to me me anyway) Perpetual Mobile.I am his biggest fan and perhaps the person on this Earth that if he were alive i could ask him a few questions that he would be thrilled to answer.For those who don't believe that P.M. is even possible let me now give you some information that doesn't quite prove the possibility but may point you in the right direction. Man creates .Human achievement has only been limited by belief and time itself.What is impossible one day is possible the next.It doesn't matter how many laws scientists come up with to make a name for themselves...there is no law in the universe...it is not even guaranteed to exist,much less abide by laws.All the made up scientific words are just that.The information,just like the money and gold is coveted by the rich.Enter Johann Earnst Elias Bessler , a man who discovered a jewel which he thought and most of us agree was more sought after than gold and he tried to sell it as such.But the world mocked him and laughed at his accomplishment and thought him a fraud among other things.There are lots of lessons to learn from Bessler's story and his life.His machine remains to this day a subject of controversy.One point of Bessler's  is that evil and greed have kept his machine unknown.I have taken it upon myself to give a message to the world in this case.Bessler was and honest Christian man meaning that he marveled at the world and all it's wonder's and beauty and he had something/someone to thank for it,namely God.All things under the Sun,to him,were created by God.And so he attributed his achievement to God.I am not trying to convert anyone  or anything like that as I myself am on the fence at times about such things.What i am trying to do is to explain that it doesn't hurt a thing to believe this man or his claims or even to take the same to be your own.I did it and now I believe that because i did I may be the closest person to finding out how the machine actually operated.As it stands now,if my views are correct,it had nothing to do with thermodynamics in that Bessler simply built a machine based on known mechanical principles that maintained an imbalance in motion.I have a very clear idea of how that can be achieved. But that's not important and that's not the point either. It has broken my heart to be received in a way much like Bessler himself was in life,on these boards.We are looking for answers.But if there are no answers then why do we look? Bessler was a man,unlike some think,that did not let his creation die with him. I may be on the very brink of it myself or it may be one of you...but I know that someone will discover it again.The question remains then if Bessler was correct in saying that his invention has been,like all truth possibly,raged against and hated by "some" from the very beginning.If i had a running wheel and attributed it to Bessler and God would any of you have second thoughts about God?Perhaps now I have touched on what this is really all about to me,and Bessler's true concern also.I am taking things at my own pace and since i am no longer a member at Besslerwheel.com (booted) my nerves have calmed a bit.Please don't take this as self promotion or anything like that.I'm not picking a fight.I'm just relaying my idea of what is required to solve this mystery.Any of you can carry the same torch as I do.There are a lot of things worse than this to be foolish about.There is something very good in this story for anyone who really wants to know about it.

AB Hammer

christo4_99

Remember a claim without proof, is as a boast without a witness. Blind faith has no place in science either. An opinion is just that, and is not a real claim. But when proven. It your opinion becomes a real value.


Remember this from one of the smartest men in physics.

Quote“We have no right to assume that any physical laws exist, or if they have existed up until now, that they will continue to exist in a similar manner in the future.”

Quote By Max Planck father of Quantum physics 1858 - 1947


I hope this helps in your understanding

Alan


With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

christo4_99

I'd rather remember this:Bessler was the expert.the authority on this subject,he wrote extensively  and since nobody can outshine the man I will continue to look to him and his Hebrew God for the answers.This is best.The above post is not directed toward anyone that is already an accomplished expert on the subject.I am simply giving my advice on how the weeds can be separated from the grain and how to give the utmost consideration concerning a subject that one man,without pretense,claims to have achieved.Those who continue to say that Bessler didn't prove anything and refuse to believe,they themselves become,the hard nut,the impenetrable vessel.Have you read his books AB?

The Eskimo Quinn

Quote from: AB Hammer on July 03, 2011, 11:08:24 AM
christo4_99

Remember a claim without proof, is as a boast without a witness. Blind faith has no place in science either. An opinion is just that, and is not a real claim. But when proven. It your opinion becomes a real value.


Remember this from one of the smartest men in physics.


I hope this helps in your understanding

Alan

quite right  nothing like a video of proof and the exact build details, i believe the bare roller answers the question in regard to the weighted gravity roller for the original question -

Full video available in the roll on the 20th of june thread
My PROOF THAT DEMOCRACY IS DEAD AND THAT WE MUST ATTACK AND KILL THE NAZIS IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, THE U.S, aUSTRALIAN AND BRITSIH GOVERNMENTS ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES TO THE ORIGINAL INVADING GOVERNMENTS, DEMOCRACY DIDN'T WORK, BOTH MAINSTREAM PARTIES ARE NAZIS, DEATH TO THE NAZIS, DEATH TO ALL SYMPATHIZERS AND SUPPORTERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39c-kpgDY58&feature=related

christo4_99

I haven't claimed anything.If you have something valuable to trade however...on second thought never mind.In closing i am done with these boards...all ye experts,pretenders and the like.I no longer care about any of it.I have reached my own conclusions and I have nobody to thank but myself for that.I learned a lot.You will have your free energy.But for now i will be content to restrict things to my own back yard so to speak.You will never see the likes of me on any such message board again.I don't have the same burdens to bare that Bessler did.To me it was a challenge.I tried to speak but my words seemed to fall on deaf ears.So figure it out yourself if you can.I have nothing to prove.I am satisfied totally.But let me say that regardless of what you think,nobody in their right mind is going to come on this board and share a working design that truly constitutes perpetual motion.I personally instead of something so stupid as that would take the basic concept and improve it through the consultation of engineers and the like.But for you guys to think that someone who is capable of realizing such a thing is going to carelessly dump it onto the internet into a shit loop like this,well,you are just dreaming.I hope you hate me.I don't care.I am done trying to imply anything.Getting booted from BW was the best thing that could have happened.If you (admin) would boot me from here it would probably help rather than hurt.I feel sorry for all you people who pretend to be holding aces but it serves you right when someone like me comes along to crash your party.People need a little more than to be fed bullshit all their lives.