Eddy currents and their implications

[MotovilovDN]

MotovilovDN

Would be much easier if you had this patent translated to English.

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[Doug1]

Hello Frankly
It has taken a couple weeks to get back here with enough time to read your thread. Very interesting thoughts ,inspirational even. Im sory you feel you were ignored in the past. In such a forum as this I think you may find some comfort if you consider you people have to stay focussed in order to reach conclussions even if they are going to be failed in the results. Learning by experience is how discoveries are found like when things go unexpectedly wrong but something new is found instead.
I did'nt know thinking in pictures was condition nor that others thought differently. If nothing ells that was information worth the time spent reading this entire thread. It will be helpful to me in comunicating with others later on. Maybe when my wife wants help around the house she should draw a picture then I might here her lol.
Back to your minds eye. It seems if any of this is possible a working provable model ,one which would be of practical use not just a toy could be produced with out to much trouble from stuff laying around. With little more then a magnet a tranformer and proper windings and diodes a simple method could be contrived to extract from a partially saturated core by over lacing it with small external alternating wave if properly wound to only extract from the perm magnetic feild with out drawing off any energy fromm the oscillation directly. I know I have seen motors speed up when a magnet placed in contact with a motor but not any amazing level just a little bit. If there were an additional winding center tapped and diode blocked at the ends seems it should deliver a positive from both outside ends of the winding with the return path being the center tap while operating a typical load of the ac signal without any effect on the primary signal side used as an oscilator.Leaving one to comon rail the pos's + or to run back through to the center tap which if it works would simple grow in voltage and not short out untill it grows large enough to exceed the limits of the core and melts.
Crued quick and simple,beyound that there are thousands of improvements and tricks that could be employed to make it work better and reduce it's size physically. Where the windings go will not be sensable by conventional terms becuase it should not work if classical theories are correct. You cant drain a high preasure from a container into a low preasure and expect the low preasure to also maintain the high preasure with out expending energy to operate a pump to increase the low preasure to fill back the high preasure. Maybe the placement of the pump in the system is the trick.
 

[frankly]

Hello Frankly
It has taken a couple weeks to get back here with enough time to read your thread. Very interesting thoughts ,inspirational even. Im sory you feel you were ignored in the past. In such a forum as this I think you may find some comfort if you consider you people have to stay focussed in order to reach conclussions even if they are going to be failed in the results. Learning by experience is how discoveries are found like when things go unexpectedly wrong but something new is found instead.
I did'nt know thinking in pictures was condition nor that others thought differently. If nothing ells that was information worth the time spent reading this entire thread. It will be helpful to me in comunicating with others later on. Maybe when my wife wants help around the house she should draw a picture then I might here her lol.
Back to your minds eye. It seems if any of this is possible a working provable model ,one which would be of practical use not just a toy could be produced with out to much trouble from stuff laying around. With little more then a magnet a tranformer and proper windings and diodes a simple method could be contrived to extract from a partially saturated core by over lacing it with small external alternating wave if properly wound to only extract from the perm magnetic feild with out drawing off any energy fromm the oscillation directly. I know I have seen motors speed up when a magnet placed in contact with a motor but not any amazing level just a little bit. If there were an additional winding center tapped and diode blocked at the ends seems it should deliver a positive from both outside ends of the winding with the return path being the center tap while operating a typical load of the ac signal without any effect on the primary signal side used as an oscilator.Leaving one to comon rail the pos's + or to run back through to the center tap which if it works would simple grow in voltage and not short out untill it grows large enough to exceed the limits of the core and melts.
Crued quick and simple,beyound that there are thousands of improvements and tricks that could be employed to make it work better and reduce it's size physically. Where the windings go will not be sensable by conventional terms becuase it should not work if classical theories are correct. You cant drain a high preasure from a container into a low preasure and expect the low preasure to also maintain the high preasure with out expending energy to operate a pump to increase the low preasure to fill back the high preasure. Maybe the placement of the pump in the system is the trick.

Hi Doug1. Good to have you here. I think that your type of thinking is exactly what is needed. In order to build a transformer to "heal" the energy we get from the wall, and start the pump, a new method of winding coils is needed.

This year I decided to simply do this myself as it seemed no - one was willing to help. I went out and bought an oscilliscope and a signal generator and am now waiting on getting a H bridge. The fact is though, if I had more time, I could do without all that guff I think.

I have here, a few coils off different things, and a few hand made ones, and was out playing the other day, (stole an afternoon), and, after testing some different things, placed a core piece with pulsed DC fed to a coil over it, inside another core with some turns of fine, can't remember how many, and watched the scope trace of the induction pick-up.

As can be appreciated, the pulsed DC was a little hashy. It is from a small generator. I was noting the differences when the primary coil's power supply was reversed, and also when the core was inverted in the secondary. The "hash" part of the signal moved to various quadrature points on the trace, according to the orientation.

The most interesting part of this whole exercise was that, over the top of the secondary I have another wind. A single wrap of coarse wire. Now, when I joined the ends of this wind, the signal in the secondary, which almost matched the primary input signal strength, if I remember correctly, lost some of it's energy, almost half I think. However, the trace smoothed right out. In fact, I could almost describe it as purely sinusoidal.

I have not had time to test this signal for magnetic strength.

However, I do feel it is possible to orient a transformer correctly to furnish the right signal. Be careful using diodes though, and caps. These elements are designed to prevent what I am trying to convey.

I have to go or I will be late for work again.

Frankly.

[Dave45]

I like Newmans analogy of the magnetic field in that there are spinning particles exiting the magnet, only Newman says there is only one domain, that I dont agree with, there are definitely two moving in opposite directions, thats why when passing a magnet in front of a coil you get ac current no matter which pole is facing the coil.

That being said if you pass a magnet past a wire, when the n field crosses the wire you get current in one direction but as the magnet rolls over and the s passes the same wire you get current in the other direction, if you take two springs wound in opposite directions and bring to bear on a wire you can see how this works, a very simple test but very effective.

All we are doing in any gernerator is using the wires to collect the field, I think there can be overunity there, but it is a very very balanced situation.

We need to find a better way and that way is to trap the field, as the field moves through a medium when the field is turned off the medium needs to keep the field from dissolving and focus it onto an electrode to be collected, the only thing that can accomplish this that I know of is a crystal configuration-structure.

We need to leave the old paradigm and find another way.
David

[Dave45]

when particles leave the magnet they disperse into a wide field and thats where we try to collect them with coils of wire,
but if we could collect them in the core could you imagine the power that could be collected all the field concentrated into an electrode or electrodes.
when we can pull the heat out of a system in the form of current the system should go into a superconductive state the energy would be tremendous, more than we could ever need.
magnetic evaporation would add to this effect and help drive the system.

It can be done
This is the way.