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Magnet Motor Without Repelling Forces

Started by lmzxc, July 14, 2011, 06:31:06 PM

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A magnet motor that does not use repelling forces; the center gear (1) on the primary mechanism and the center gear (1) on the secondary mechanism do not rotate; the other gears rotate.  Because of this arrangement, moving magnets should be in power positions in relation to stationary metal rings all the way around the circle.  In the picture a green-color gear is mounted on the same arm as the gear with the two magnets.  An idler gear should be attached to a support with one bearing connection in line with the center axis of a green-color 36T gear and with one bearing connection in line with the center axis of the 108T gear that is the non-rotating center gear on the secondary mechanism.  Green dots = magnets attached to gears 2 inches above gears; blue dots = magnets attached to gears 6 inches above gears; inside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 2 inches above gears; outside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 6 inches above gears.  Motor is started and stopped by turning the two-inch-wide steel rings attached to supports attached to nuts that are on 1-inch thread rod attached to up side of center gear holder.

A working prototype has not been built as of 7-10 -11.  I was concerned that there would be a lock-up where the outside gear in the primary mechanism turns the opposite direction.  I determined that this does not happen by testing this theory with the test device in the pictures below.  The arm seems to swing freely with little resistance when pushed at the point where the magnets in combination with the inner gear of the secondary mechanism would cause a pushing force.

Update (about 8 hours after uploading the first three pictures).  After uploading the first three pictures, I believe I have come up with a better design (see the forth picture, copy36.jpg).  With this design I do not use the idler gears, the green-color gears, and the shafts for holding the idler gears.

Update (about 12 hours after uploading first three pictures).  I believe the fifth picture (copy37.jpg) represents something interesting.  With this design I do not use the primary mechanism.  The primary mechanism allows one to use rotational force produced by the secondary mechanism.

lmzxc

Improvements regarding what I posted on 7-15-2011.
Improvements also can be seen at www.gravitymotor.net

In the pictures the fourth gear has been left off to make understanding easier.  A magnet motor that does not use repelling forces; the center gear (1) on the primary mechanism (first picture) and the center gear (1) on the secondary mechanism (second picture) do not rotate; the other gears rotate.  Because of this arrangement, moving magnets should be in power positions in relation to stationary metal rings all the way around the circle.  The 240-60-60-300 gear ratio seems to be correct.  Green dots = magnets attached to gears 2 inches above gears; blue dots = magnets attached to gears 6 inches above gears; inside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 2 inches above gears; outside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 6 inches above gears.  Motor is started and stopped by turning the two-inch-wide steel rings attached to supports attached to nuts that are on 1-inch thread rod attached to up-side of center gear holder.  A prototype has not been built as of 7-10-2011.

lmzxc

W = Fs

W = work
F = force
s = path length of circular movement

Work done by torque can be defined as force and path length of circular movement (W = Fs) where F = force and s = path length of circular movement.  When F is a constant magnitude applied perpendicularly to a lever arm and when s is the path length of the circular movement (circular arc s) the work done is W = Fs.

If a prototype magnet motor without repelling magnetic force were built that had normal rotation regarding arms connected to gears and magnets, in order for magnets to stay in the center of two circular rings, circular movement regarding gears and magnets would equal zero.  Work (as defined by the equation W = Fs) does not occur without circular movement.

In the case of my magnet motor, the primary mechanism allows gears and magnets to move along a circular path between the two circular rings without normal rotation regarding the arms connected to gears and magnets.  In order for magnets to stay in the center of two circular rings, movement regarding gears and magnets can not equal zero.  In order for magnets to stay in the center of two circular rings, circular movement regarding gears and magnets must occur.  When there is force (static magnetic pull) and circular movement, work occurs.

The normal problem with an attempt to build a magnet motor without repelling magnetic force is that after the initial movement, there is not movement.  Work (W = Fs) does not occur if there is force (static magnetic pull) without path length of circular movement.  The key to the success of my magnet motor is the primary mechanism that makes possible both force (static magnetic pull) and movement regarding gears and magnets during regular operation of the magnet motor.




lmzxc

Constructing a Magnet Motor

If one were to use a design with one or more primary mechanisms as described above to build a magnet motor, probably it would be better to have two primary mechanisms, one on each side of the secondary mechanism with each arm attached to both primary mechanisms.

Work done by torque can be defined as force and path length of circular movement (W = Fs) where F = force and s = path length of circular movement.  When F is a constant magnitude applied perpendicularly to a lever arm and when s is the path length of the circular movement (circular arc s) the work done is W = Fs.  With two primary mechanisms the rigidity and stability of the arm holding the gear with the magnets would be much better, and the path of the circular movement of the magnets can be more precise.

If a prototype magnet motor without repelling magnetic force were built that had normal rotation regarding arms connected to gears and magnets, in order for magnets to stay in the center between two circular rings, circular movement regarding gears and magnets would equal zero.  Work (as defined by the equation W = Fs) does not occur without circular movement.

In the case of my magnet motor, the primary mechanism allows gears and magnets to move along a circular path between the two circular rings without normal rotation regarding the arms connected to gears and magnets.  In order for magnets to stay in the center between two circular rings, movement regarding gears and magnets can not equal zero.  In order for magnets to stay in the center between two circular rings, circular movement regarding gears and magnets must occur.  When there is force (static magnetic pull) and circular movement, work occurs.  With two primary mechanisms the rigidity and stability of the arm holding the gear with the magnets would be much better, and the variation in the distance between a magnet and a ring would be less.

The normal problem with an attempt to build a magnet motor without repelling magnetic force is that after the initial movement, there is not movement.  Work (W = Fs) does not occur if there is force (static magnetic pull) without path length of circular movement.  The key to the success of my magnet motor is the primary mechanism that makes possible both force (static magnetic pull) and movement regarding gears and magnets during regular operation of the magnet motor.

The pull of a magnet varies with the inverse of the square of the distance between the magnet and the metal being pulled.  At 1/16 inch the pull of a magnet is four times the pull of the magnet at 1/8 inch.  Using two primary mechanisms makes possible the use of stronger magnets and more precise movement of gears and magnets, resulting in more power because of stronger magnets and resulting in more power because of a smaller distance between magnets and steel rings.

I bought a vertical lathe on Ebay for $2,600 in 2005 (including free loading).  The lathe weighs 33,000 pounds, and has a 48-inch chuck and a 54-inch swing.  The 1960 Schiess Model KE125 single column vertical turret lathe (made in Germany and purchased for $40,000 in 1980 by the seller) was said to be in good working condition when it was replaced by a CNC lathe in 2003.  I can make precise rings four feet in diameter with this machine.  I have seen pictures of Schiess machines much bigger than this that could have been used to make huge rings for magnet-motor-powered "flying saucers" in the 1950's.  With enough rigidity and stability along with precise rings, I hope to get down to a distance of .031 of an inch regarding the distance between magnets and steel rings.

lmzxc

If one were to use a design with one or more primary mechanisms as described above to build a magnet motor, probably it would be better to have two primary mechanisms, one on each side of the secondary mechanism for better support of the magnets.  Because of the action of the secondary mechanism, it is hoped that just one arm from each of the primary mechanisms would be needed to connect primary mechanisms to a secondary mechanism.

The pull of a magnet varies inversely with the square of the distance between the magnet and the metal being pulled.  At 1/16 inch the pull of a magnet is four times the pull of the magnet at 1/8 inch.  Using two primary mechanisms makes possible the use of stronger magnets and more precise movement of gears and magnets, resulting in more power because of stronger magnets and resulting in more power because of a smaller distance between magnets and steel rings.

Video of Prototype of Primary Mechanism
http://flash1.gravlab.com/biblefirst/10270.htm