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DIY - Stable Redox Molecules

Started by gravityblock, August 08, 2011, 09:05:31 PM

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charly2

Hi everyone, I have read the above patents and I think it is possible to replicate from all the clues given, of course allways playing safe.
I guess, the most critical and expensive component in the set up are the electrodes, so surfing on ebay I found this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/120724679996?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

For me looks good, nice and not very expensive. What do you think guys?
I dont have much free time but i'll try to invest some time for research and develop this great discover.
I'm far from being a rich man and i want to be healthy too (and my family). It's worth a try.

charly2

ASEA has 123 mg of sodium per 4 ounces.  from http://www.echifitness.com/Resources/011711-asea-use-notes.pdf
IMO, this is a good starting point in order to get the initial NaCl concentration on the distilled water.
Na = 22.9898g/mol, Cl = 35.453g/mol; this means that NaCl is composed for 39.35% Na and 60.65% Cl.
And 4 water oz = 118.29 cm3 (or grams)
My math would be: ((0.123/0.3935)/118.29)*100= 0.26% <--- The patent says this value is at least 0.15%
Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong on the math.

charly2

Ok, finally i have my couple of titanium platinized electrodes.
I also have one 1Lt Pyrex glass vessel that i used for making colloidal silver but it will work good after removing all the possible invisible silver debris accumulated on the botton and walls.
This weekend I made a lid out of UHM plastic to fit the electodes and a small dc motor to circulate and stir the water.
I will use 99% pure NaCl from a local lab. And for keeping a very low temp. I will put all the setup inside a cooler with regular water ice.
My real concerning is about chlorates formation, and Sodium chlorate is a non-selective herbicide. It is considered phytotoxic to all green plant parts. It can also kill through root absorption., So I will try it first on several small herbs from the garden just to be sure.
Stay tuned I'll post some updates later.

citfta

Hi charly2,

    Thanks for posting the update.  It sounds like you might have a pretty good handle on the chemistry involved.  I don't know enough about the chemistry to try this on my own so I am interested to see what you come up with.  If you need any help on the electronic side I may be able to help you there.
     
    I tried a couple of bottles of the Asea water.  I found a seller that would sell 2 bottles instead of the case of 4.  I still had to pay $90 by the time they added on the shipping charges.  After a few days I did notice I was sleeping better and had more energy during the day.  I had one day where I was really on the go pretty hard all day and I still was able to finish what I had to do although I was pretty tired when I got done.  I am 65 years old so I don't have the energy I used to have.   By the time I finished the 2 bottles I really didn't see any other significant changes.  I realize 2 bottles is not really a fair test but it is just too expensive to keep taking when I don't really have any major issues to try and resolve.  If you can come up with a reasonable alternative I would be willing to give it a trial for a few months or so to see what effect it would have in the long run.  So I am looking forward to your results.

Thanks again for the update, Carroll

charly2

Hi Carroll, thanks for sharing your experience dinking it, maybe I'll order also 2 bottles later, just to have a comparison point like ppm's, ph, taste, etc.
BTW it would be really appreciated if someone could check with a TDS meter the PPM on the asea water and share it, that info is not mentioned on the documents and it is in some way linked to the concentration.

And it's really good to know you have good knowledge of electronic because that is one of my weakest point :P

I'll start using a laptop charger 16V DC 4.5 amps and adjusting the distance between electrodes to get the desire current at determined concentration in this case I'll keep it hypertonic at 0.2%. I still don't fully understand the reason to keep the solution above the isotonic point (approx 0.14%),so I'll do it as it's stated in the pattent.
If time allow me, this next weekend I'll make an attempt to do it and test it.